Here follow some the posts I wrote to TriLite.
                            ... Have fun and Enjoy ...

         ! WOW - All I can say is that I sure wrote a lot of posts - WOW !

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Hi R-C... 
I have responded to this posts again, but it is possible that you and I say 
the same thing. It's different enough though that it sometimes seems to me 
that you say something different or do not answer my questions. 

So here she goes: 
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Gerardus wrote: 
>>I realize that I am dancing on both sides of the Karma-Line. Makes 
>>for good thinking and learning I feel. I also had another thought in 
>>conjunction with the No Karma System. As you know we are influenced 
>>by the Predator's Mind and a person like Hitler, as the Cs said, was 
>>completely controlled by the STS Predator's Mind. 

R-C here: 
>Because he let it control him. If he was deceived to let this happen, 
>or if he did this consciously (unlikely) doesn't really matter.

Gerardus here: 
Indeed being deceived or not consciously knowing what's happening is the 
same thing. What I am trying to say is: because of the control over Hitler 
and the control over other world leaders, the world experienced a variety of 
happenings. This is the manner by which world happenings come about and the 
STS Aliens are responsible for this. It's their job to create world 
happenings...

So, this is meant to be so! 

Hitler therefore is "used" or plays his role on 
the stage of the world. I do not blame him, nor his Soul for anything that 
happened to the world or the millions that were killed. In one way or 
another - the world of mankind needs its negative experiences and the STS 
Aliens bring this about. I see this as the normal workings of the 
world/universe and I neither blame Hitler, nor any other world leader, nor 
the STS Aliens for the misery mankind experienced. The world and mankind are 
engaged in a play or performance. This play creates our experiences. 

And all experiences are positive in my view... 
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Gerardus here: 
>>Let's assume that this indeed was so - where 
>>does that leave the Hitler Soul? Is it responsible when it is 
>>completely taken over? 

R-C here: 
>Again: there are lessons to be learned. 
>Until you've learned them, you repeat them.

Gerardus here: 
Yes, I already knew this. 
But what you say does not answer my question.

My point is: 
The world is a stage and somehow certain actors upon that stage need to 
implement a Play or Performance. I do not think that it is right to blame 
any actor for playing his or her part. IOW: the actors are without blame. 

All they do is play their part. They are deceived or unconsciously 
controlled by 4D forces that are able to travel time and set things up 
according to their liking. The masses of mankind are sitting ducks! 

What I say here is that we need to see through this world-action and 
understand how it comes about. That to me is the lesson! And if one does 
not learn it - one will subjected to the same scenario again. By seeing 
through this - one's Soul becomes more aware and takes the possibilities 
of unconscious control as a possibility... 

Knowledge protects like the cassies say - Gerardus
February 2001
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Hi Group...
I was reading Wave13j.htm last night and I ran into the following question: 
What is the nature of this reality?  Meaning our reality. 

Here is what I noted down last night...

Question: 
What is the Nature of our Reality?
Answer: 
We can never explain the true Nature of our Reality! 

Because we Are this Reality!  Isness cannot be explained only experienced!

Then: 
We can only speak about the true Nature of our Dream. 
Our Dream is our Creation and our Creation is an expression of our Reality. 
This means that we are able to know ourselves by our Creation. 

We ARE what we create!
I hope you don't take all this too seriously. 

I was just musing on the first Question last night - Gerardus
February 2001
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The Boiling Water Pot... 
Imagine an enormous big glass pot full of water on a stove. Turn on the 
stove and the water will boil. When the water boils watch the bubbles rise 
to the top and disappear into the air. Now, the Air is Consciousness and the 
Water is Creation. We are the Bubbles rising from the bottom of Creation to 
the Top - all the way through 1D  2D  3D  4D  5D  6D and 7D. Once at the 
top of the water we become Air/Consciousness again and are absorbed by 
the water to rise once again. Naturally this is a very simple Grand Cycle but 
it works. Do you see that tiny bubble, just below the middle of the pot, 
rising to the top? That's Mankind...

In a small way, the big bang IS the "idea of the boiling water pot". It 
repeats its process infinitely as long as you keep the air and the water 
in a closed system. The universe is a closed system for it is only one mind 
infinitely changing...

Simply bubbling - Gerardus
February 2001
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Gerardus here: 
Creating our own reality in 3D is a matter of awareness. 
An incarnated 6D being could create anything it wants in 3D. Point is, why 
would it want to? It's kid stuff to them! In all ways, all things are 
relative and the actuality of our 3d world is an example of a reality 
created by a massive amount of Entities, high and low, who in turn and 
collectively create what happens here. On top of all this, there might be 
Lizzies and/or Greys who also have their say so... 

One thing to me is for sure, that "wherever" you put your attention - THAT 
- is the reality that is re-enforced or created. IOW: the Cs and everyone 
reading the sessions are re-enforcing what the sessions say. This is as 
much a trap as any other. Once one get used to this trap, well, one thinks, 
feels and experiences what the trap contains. No doubt some traps contain 
more truth than others, but a trap is still a trap. If we are Duplicates of 
the One - no other force can truly touch us or do anything to us. 

To know that this is so, to the utmost limit, is true protection. Knowing that 
we are the Truth for example is a good start. To come to that point - well - 
that is what 3D might be for in the first place. Know ThouSelf...

Life is what you believe it to be - Gerardus 
( Saying is from Yada )
February 2001
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>Hi Gerardus, 
>Just read S-4's post, I am becoming more aware of the neg energies, 
certain places that I drive by seem to trigger that recognition.. I do not 
'see' with my outer eyes, but an inner knowing, manifests as wariness, 
anger.. if my attention is not turned on, it follows me home. My question 
to you, S-4, and any group members, how do I construct a protection wall 
to keep this out, are personal shields the same as say protection around 
your property. 

>Something odd is going on, actually this interference is coming from more 
than one direction. Comments, suggestions, web sites are appreciated. 
> 
>Thanks, S-4 


Hi S-4... 
    Good point! 
    I feel that Knowledge is Protection!! 

This is reached by experience. This also means that we need to experience 
certain teachings as false. Life is the Teacher! In the mean time, many of 
us still will have to go through some of these Teachings and learn from 
them... 

In actuality, I see nothing as either false or true, for in the end, all 
things are only stories. We have been hoodwinked by some of these stories 
and they keep hanging around in our belief system and our experiences are 
created by these. Possibly by believing absolutely nothing - we will not 
be creating anything anymore and shoot right back to the Plane of Bliss and 
know that we are the Truth in the first place and that all stories are only 
ingredients to consume, digest and expel...

Wiping is not necessary - Gerardus
March 2001
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Gerardus here: 
From what L-C writes and from many other teachings I have concluded that 
the human personality is not just one being or entity. It could be a 
"collection of energies" and this is demonstrated by Multiple-Personality 
cases. I feel that I have different moods, and or resources, to draw from 
so to speak. Some joke a lot, some worry, some are serious, some are 
restless, some are nervous... 

The older I become for example, the more anxious or insecure I become. This 
does not mean that I'm shaking all the time or have the quivers. No, but I 
do have a different "feel" about, and of, myself than when I was 25 or 35 
or 45 or even 55 or 65. It creeps up on old guys maybe. Why? Getting 
older for example is not what I thought it would be! I thought that one 
would be the same guy and just do less. Not so! There are emotional and 
mental changes that not necessarily makes one feel older - one IS older. 

Not only that - I have thought it over and I cannot find a possitive 
thing about it. Does that mean that recognizing reality is negative? I do not 
think so. All I can say is - it is an experience. Not necessarily a nice one... 

So these "Mood Changes" of myself and of others - where do they come from? 
I do not think that these characteristics find their source in the meat 
Gerardus is - could they be attachments in the form of Guides, Helpers and 
Hinderers? Do we live life alone?  I would say certainly not!  The 
dominant personality however might be my own. Whoever he is - is a riddle 
in the first place. It is Genes? DNA? Or the type of food I eat? Are my 
emotions caused by chemicals in the brain?  So, to conclude - I have many 
Guardian Angels, Demons, Emotions and Feelings that make up what Gerardus 
thinks he is...

I am a multi-dimensional and multi-personal GodBeing - Gerardus 

April 2001
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Hi J-4... 
Life is what we focus upon! 
So if there are scientists who are focussing on a Big Bang and or Splat - 
They will find it!!  They will find it - for it is their creation...

In the mean time, the universe or life is neither this nor that - it is 
everything! Whatever we find it to be - is what we have created of it!

About the article: 
I have read some of the theory about and of before the Big Bang. 
The universe as known by the Sciences is a happening limited to Time and 
Space. I do not think that they have concluded yet that Time and Space is a 
certain condition of an illusionary reality we find ourselves in. IOW: what 
I am saying is, that there really is no time and space, except in our dream 
we call Human Life - it is a Dream or a Dance in Consciousness. Our 
Consciousness. Time and Space and the physical universe are only real when 
you look at it by means of a human body. The body is a lens - drop the lens 
and Time and Space disappears...

About this illusionary reality: 
Physical reality is a "Reality of Mind" in a certain form. IOW: the energy 
we call mind FORMS the activity and or objects that appears to look like 
the physical universe, when we live in a human body and focus upon it. It's 
a self-created illusion with the help of the body - the lens. It's an 
illusion... 

The physical reality is a form of mind, and what we call it, and how we 
experience it however, does not change what it is - Mind in Form. It is a 
construction in Consciousness - which is Mind. Mind is timeless and 
spaceless! However, physical reality is real - for we experience this 
Dream as Real. A Real Illusion!

So, was there a Big Bang, after a big Splat? And are there other universes 
out of which others have developed? Yes, there are other universes - but 
they are also only Mind in certain forms. Well, the big bang and all 
"splats" are only a theory and are nothing but speculation. It's not 
something we can go to and witness and say - I've seen it and it was an 
actually happening. It is a speculation...

Here is my speculation: 
The only big bang that ever happens is a personal one, and at that 
LightBulb Moment we understand that we are dreaming. Dreaming creation as 
we experience it. To awaken from this dream, is the personal big bang, all 
of us sooner or later will have it. It's a thing or happening in the Head... 

The universe is a timeless and spaceless phenomena that under certain 
conditions and with a certain body can be experienced as something 
physical. How physical is it? Not much physicality there at all when we 
take into consideration the emptiness between atoms. The same scientists 
say that the spaces between atoms and electrons are so great that an atom 
is 99.9999% emptiness. 

What happened to our solidness as we experience it?? 

Solidness or solidity, as well as Time and Space, as well as Big Bangs and 
Splats are part and parcel of an illusion we are subjected to - the 
Physical Dream. We created it, then went to live in it and find that it is 
real. A real Illusion... 

We have come here to experience this dream and it fools us. We say that the 
reality we live in is real, this is so because we are focussed on an 
illusion that fools us. Dreams at night are just as real! As a matter of 
fact, all realities are virtual and nothing is real except the Observer. 

The Observer is The God That Is All! We are this God in the form of Man 
and are fooling ourselves with our own Creation. As a matter of fact, we 
are lost in it, and now we are looking at other people (Scientists) to 
explain to us where and what we see and what is happening before big bangs 
and/or before splatses. There never was One of them - for the physical 
universe is a Timeless phenomena that rebuilds itself piece by piece, atom 
by atom like the cells of our body - continuously. The physical universe is 
forever new, looking forever old or older. It is such a crafty creation 
that it fools all scientists. And they keep saying this is the way it is, 
for they are paid by the New World Order People - who would like humanity 
to believe in nonsense...

Slowly awakening - Gerardus 

BTW: 
I repeated myself a few times above because I had three different goes at 
it. I was interrupted too many times. Also an illusion naturally...
April 2001
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>Hi All, 
>Found some very interesting info: 
>You might already be familiar with the Spiritweb site. I found that John 
 Payne's contributions to this site are very good. One of the quotes in his 
 channeled material which touches on the discussions here some months ago is: 
>---- 
>So, ascension my dear friends, is truly about descension. It is bringing 
 the light down - it is landing the light. It means incarnating 100% as your 
 soul-self. 

>That is how paradise will be brought to earth. You are not waiting for a 
 savior or a guru or a messiah or spaceships from one enlightened planet or 
 another. You are waiting for the arrival of your soul. 
>---end quote---


Hello E-4   Gerardus here:
If I am not mistaking John Payne used to be on my TriLite List for a while. 
Is there anybody here who might remember?  And yes, what John says is 
true. It is all about bringing "The Light" down into our physical creation 
- the locality in mind within which we think we live in physical bodies. 

This is only done bit by bit, for the Soul-Self needs to experience all the 
"fluff and stuff" before it is able to command a human vehicle in such a 
way that it will be in a continual listening mode for the Soul to shine 
through. This truly means that possible only one out of a million is able 
and ready to do such. Another thing, it is not only to bring down The 
Light, but also to be able to create a physical reality within which we all 
get lost and play the game of searching for what we really are. There is 
nothing else to do! It's a con-game naturally, for we are The Light or 
Truth in the first place. The joke is on us...

Great quote - Gerardus 
June 2001
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Gerardus here: 
What difference does it make what the real story is about Jesus, or maybe 
Hesus as some people call him? What difference does it make what the real 
story is about Buddha, Moses, Krishna, Lao Tzu or any other Great One? All 
we know is that some of their words survived, and by golly by 
thinking/feeling and experiencing Life for what it is, again and again, we 
slowly learn that the real story is about ourselves!

Hello Gerardus, 
While I agree in part with your above comments, because certainly there are 
those who live a fine life without ever having even heard of these fellows, 
isn't it wiser to know as much as we can and so doing make better choices? 
Otherwise it seems as though lots more untruth could be laid at our feet. 
Which amounts to lies. 

If one does not care enough to find these answers that is okay, I guess, but 
wouldn't we then still be looking out form our caves?  What I mean is... 
isn't this wanting to know/grow all a part of the evolution?  
I think so. 

You say: 
What is our story? 
Our story is the experience of Life. Our Life! 
I say: I agree, but experience is colored by what one knows. 
K-C


Hi K-C... Gerardus here: 
Yes, even more than colored I feel. For knowing is influenced by the 
inspiration/knowing of the Soul We Are. It already knows the past. So 
again, why bother about any past. Is all this research done because our 
human body-mind finds it interesting and possibly thinks that this is 
important? I still think/feel that one can go too far in trying to uncover 
the past. It's easy to become an ego-mind thing... 

What about the past of 200,000 years ago? Does it really matter? In the 
same sense, it does not really matter what happened 2000 years ago. All is 
present within the moment. I take into consideration here however that we 
are aware of what those beings stood for and what they might have 
said. This means to me that one is not to stumble or ponder endlessly 
about who said what about them and whatever details might come up, which 
might be contradicted by other historians... 

I stick with L-C here who says that the more one thinks one knows, the 
more one knows nothing. Exactly! That is why it is more important to 
listen than to discover the details of history. After all it is only 
his-story! In the mean time - whatever works for you - follow it... 
Following mine - Gerardus 

BTW: 
I find that too many people think that the Truth is out there. What is out 
there is only a specific interpretation of an illusionary happening. There 
are as many interpretations as that there are people. We all have our own - 
all stories. We are the Truth! All our illusionary experiences will end 
when this is fully realized. Until that point is reached, we will all only 
experience our self-made dreams. So what needs to be done? Full 
realization of who or what we really are - The Truth. We are the One That 
Is! In the mean time, all that's "out there" is diversion...

Blessings and Smiles - Gerardus
June 2001
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Hi All...  
Well, I feel that truth of any kind is an individual thing. Therefore we 
have to find it ourselves by means of our own experiences. Absolute Truth, 
Life, the Universe, The Light are all the same Force and it is a changing 
Force. If it was not changing - it would become stale. It is a Flow! We 
are this Flow - changing...

Apparently as you say, your physically impairment does not stop that Flow. 
Sounds reasonable to me since a stroke is a impairment of the brain. 
Sometimes by exercise and time it is fixable. I have seen stroke patients 
recuperate. I hope that will be the case for you too...

Smiles and Blessings - Gerardus
July 2001
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The OverSoul at Play... 
About Karma and Experience ...

As I see it, and I am gut-guessing here, there is no Karma from the point 
of view of the OverSoul. However, there is Karma from the point of view of 
the human being...

For example, let's say that I am an average OverSoul, and I want to have a 
thousands human instruments living on earth in a widely varying arrangement 
or proliferation. So, by means of thought, I distribute certain aspects of 
my Energies among a thousand human vehicles, who in and by themselves 
become human soul energies on their own. These human soul energies live 
what we call incarnations within a period of say 20,000 years. I as the 
OverSoul do this on earth for I want to experience the Human Condition on 
earth...

So, there they are, a thousand different human beings living over a period 
of 20,000 years and they are living and experiencing human lives. Since I 
as an OverSoul am not familiar with the Human Conditions on earth, there 
are many things and details to learn. I do this by means of my instruments 
and the Energies invested into them are called human souls. Human souls are 
learning - not human bodies. IOW: these human instruments make mistakes 
in judgement and in order to learn how to correct this, they experience their 
mistakes from the other point of view in other lifetimes. This means, each 
human soul energy, as an aspect of the OverSoul Energy, is a unit on its 
own and it is responsible for this human soul energy. Each human soul 
energy cycles back and forth from the earth to the astral after the death 
of the body and from the human point of view, they cycle and re-cycle 
according to the lessons that need to be learned. Bingo - Karma!

From the point of view of the OverSoul however, there is no Karma! There 
is only learning and experiencing. In the mean time though, because the 
OverSoul is responsible for the one thousand human beings and their 
energies, it is possible that some human energies will not be completely 
balanced in thoughts and experiences, after the set time of 20,000 years. 
Now what?

All this means is, that the OverSoul needs to pay particular attention to 
these stragglers and it needs to help these human soul energies in order to 
finish their journeys in a balanced manner. If not, the OverSoul cannot 
leave the Earth plane completely, since some of its Energies are still 
living in human instruments. It is still attached to earth. No big deal 
naturally, for the OverSoul exist beyond time and all it takes is to go 
back into time and "help" its human soul energies to complete their 
cycles. Voila, the little voice speaks louder...

Since we at present are at the end of an enormous universal cycle, it is 
clear that there is an enormous effort put forward by many many OverSouls 
to finish their learning on Earth. They all want to collect their 
energy-interests that are living on the earth. No wonder, so many people 
on earth are waking up and want to finish their 3D experiences. They know 
that it is time to move on and up. For by now the little voice is shouting.

Karma - the Laugh of the OverSoul. 
Karma - the Human Being's Dilemma.

Laughing here - Gerardus



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>Hey Gerardus, I like this.... makes a lot of sense.... and it makes you 
>think.. ;) 
> 
>I-4


Glad you liked it I-4... 
F-4 is right about the no Karma bit - for her that is! She lives from 
the point of view of the OverSoul. For ordinary human beings though, 
especially the masses, they live from the human level. From that level the 
idea of Karma or Balance is good! All this is set up with much thought in 
mind. And yes, by living so many lives "thinking-out" what's what, and by 
means of the different teachings, we find out that all teachings or 
religions are but stories. Some are more ridiculous than others, and it is 
up to each individual human soul to discover the lies about them. In the 
mean time, all of us are subjected to the conditioning of our parents and 
our society and/or the times we grow up in...

In the mean time, what I wrote above - is also but a story. Mine!
I am afraid that each one of us has to go by what is true for us. As I see 
it - the Truth is that there is only individual Truth!
---  ALSO - we are the Truth! We are the Reality!  ---

What we experience is what we are and is where we are at. Where we are at, 
depends upon our belief systems and/or views. What we experience depends 
upon our awareness...
Story Teller - Gerardus



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July 2001
Hi All...
Karma is an aspect of a belief system. It is a virtual reality. If you
believe in it - you will live or have it. Karma or belief systems are the
impetus or actions of physical life or lifetimes. Nothing is chiseled in
stone or steel - except for what we believe in. It creates our realities.
We are the Creator in a mode of distortion and therefore believe in certain
philosophies and or realities. We do all this in order to play the Game of
The Light We Are. We express ourselves in Light and Shadows. Looking from
the bottom, Karma looks like a real thing or actuality, looking from the
top and therefore from a No-Time perspective - how can Karma be real?  More
or less it is a script by which we play our roles - written by our so
called previous actions... 

What is - What 'is' ? 
All experiences of all Life are What Is.  We can only experience this on an
individual basis and Truth therefore is an individual thing. The only
absolute Truth that exist is Individual Truth. No one being in the universe
knows it all. Except The Infinite Light itself and it ain't talking much,
because it is busy expressing itself in All That Is.  In a sense we could
say - What 'is" IS "All That Is" - The Infinite Light or TIL.  It is the
grass and the rose, it is the human and the enlightened Master, it is the
Co-Creator of the Solar system creating with the infinite wisdom of the
Infinite Light - TIL.  Yet, all blades of grass, roses, human beings,
masters and Co-Creators are equal - for all are the same Light. Keeping
itself busy being All...

Only one Candle - Gerardus
( Sometimes people say: You are preaching! )
(( Did you know that that is only their opinion?))


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July 2001
Gerardus here: 
>Yes, and then the self-responsibility bit. 
>I wonder what happens to people who are not self-responsible? 
>Do they come back and need to learn this? 
>Is not this equal to Karma or being out of balance? 
>.................................................

>F-4 here: 
>No, I do not think anyone has to come back to learn anything - that is 
>unless they truly want this type of experience. It does not matter how we 
>experience these realms, it is the experience alone that I favour as being 
>what it is all about.

Gerardus here: 
In the mean time I posted a post about this Karma Subject. Did you receive 
it? Then - YOU are right from the OverSoul's point of view. YOU live there 
- your awareness is and comes from there! For many billions of others 
there is a different rule. This rule is a self-made rule by means of belief 
systems. Karma to them is existing and real. And yes, especially so when 
anyone wants to come back and truly want that certain experience. This is 
what you mentioned above...

I think/feel the clue lies in the fact that... 

         We ARE the Universe, we ARE Life, we ARE the Truth! 

This means that if we would treat someone in a negative manner - we treat 
ourselves in that manner. There is no "other" - so we create a gap by means 
of the way we treated another aspect of ourselves. This needs to be 
corrected sooner or later. These treatments of others are caused by the 
fact that all of us have blinds spots in our awareness system (human 
soulness) on purpose!!  This "blindspot" is the "activator" of the 3D world 
and its incarnational programs or the proliferation of the OverSoul by 
means of its Instruments and the energies invested there. 

IOW: all of us...
are created exactly the way our OverSoul wanted us to be! Blindspots and 
all! These blindspots are the impetus that makes the world what it is. A 
dysfunctional mess! It is the CAUSE of all our experiences...!

This entire scenery is a challenge for the OverSoul, as well as, for the 
human soul. The human soul living in a human body for example, pulls off 
some dandies here and there, because it has free will. The task of the 
OverSoul is to direct the human soul in trying to see or understand what 
happened and correct what needs correcting. It is at least a two way 
scenario. This is why it is important for the OverSoul to finish with its 
incarnational energies, for it cannot move on completely unless it is free 
of attachments in the lower planes...

I have attachments in cyberspace - Gerardus 
(It's 4D and the Cookie List)




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July/Aug 2001
F-4 here:
>Hi Gerardus,
>Yes, I did read your discourse on the OverSoul from yesterday - I wanted to
>respond but knew I had to read it a few more times to really get it into my
>brain before commenting.  I do however agree with a lot of what you said -
>except of course anything to do with Karma !  It was overall a very
>insightful view.


Gerardus here:
Thank you for your kind words.
I know that you do not agree with the Karma bit. I respect that view. 
Possibly, as soon as one sees through the illusion or beliefs about it - it 
falls away. Then it is like passing off the Tooth Fairy. There are factors 
however that are unknown to me. More below...


F-4 here:
>Karma is real when it becomes a belief, the same as sitting
>on a cloud playing a harp will be real for the entities who truly believe
>that this is what they will do after physical death.


Gerardus here:
Yes, same thing!
We create our own reality.
But the reality we create is not necessarily the whole bottle of wax...

F-4 here:
>When you look at the big picture and see that all lives are occurring
>simultaneously there is no way we can be paying for something we did last
>life time in this one - because the last one is still viable and still
>happening to us - just in a different time line.  We do of course need
>belief systems to create a world to experience - but when we realise that
>that is what they are - merely belief systems, we can observe them as just
>that and not give them any more power.

Gerardus here:
Yes, living all lives simultaneously might seem to exclude Karma. But there 
is still the issue of the influences of one life upon another life, or upon 
many lives for that matter. There is also the factor of "no time".  Going 
back into time for example plays a great part in the activity of certain 
beings who are dependent on human food and/or human energies. They are able 
to arrange a different future for many human beings, if not for all...

If THEY can do this, so can any OverSoul!  Therefore - I might hit some 
Karma head on possibly.  Personally, I am not quite aware enough on being 
completely sure of what is possible by taking the 'no time" factor into 
account. I assume that this only can be learned from existing in 4D or 
beyond.  YOU may say Karma is out, but I cannot join you on this one.  At 
one time I thought I could agree, but I must leave it open for now...

I do know for sure, that OverSouls still encounter surprises from their 
human instruments when humans pull off an unexpected maneuver. Humans have 
free will!  If OverSouls were not surprised by some human maneuvers - all 
lives to them would be an open book and the universe would be a programmed 
machine that no one could change.  Things are not that simple I feel...

The human free will plays a part in the future of mankind and the universe. 
By this I do not mean that they can completely upset the apple cart. Humans 
minds have influence upon all things within the one Mind...

Then - time is a very flexible ingredient within the universal scheme of 
things. Therefore I cannot say with absolute certainty that Karma is out. 
You can do so possibly, but I personally feel that I do not know enough of 
the Time Factor and the possibilities of returning to the past and correct 
or change things.  The Cs speak about this abundantly.  Might be true - 
might not be true. I take their words with caution and in the mean time I 
leave all possibilities open. From past experiences I have learned that I 
changed my mind on things when I acquired more knowledge or information. No 
doubt I will on this one as well...
Hope so - Gerardus



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Aug  2001
Fiona here: 
I totally respect your need to keep the "karma" possibility alive. This is 
what makes for good interaction and discussion !

You are right in that our other lives influence our current one. We 
definitely do get bleed thru from one life to another. We can unknowingly 
pick up on the thought patterns and possibly even the experiences of other 
selves living different lives. Unexplained fears or phobias could easily be 
bleed thru (like some peoples irrational fear or spiders or snakes - yet in 
their current life time they have never been bitten of killed by these 
creatures). This once upon a time would have been thought to be past life 
stuff - which in fact it is, but at the same time we can be influenced by 
current lifetime existences of other aspects of our beings. 

I have encountered some really neurotic "other selves" in my sleep state, 
they are a real mess, and I can understand why I have some of these 
tendencies in this life time, it is bleed thru.

I also believe it could be right that time lines and mass experiences can be 
altered or changed, that is because there are so many realities within 
realities that can split of and continue independently of the original 
reality. It is mind boggling.
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Dec 02 2004 
>DM here:
>Hi Gerardus,
>I've been deeply saddened by things I've been reading on the internet
>recently, and amazed by the disconnection between this and what is reported
>by the media. I'm feeling more and more out of touch with the majority.


Hello DM - Gerardus here:
Do not feel sad - for it does not help anyone!  Feeling out of touch with
the majority is good. The majority is made up out of the masses of Humanity.
They are controlled by a Social Consciousness - it's very shallow! It goes
by what is right and wrong...
----------------------

David here:
>I want to let the dying bury the dead, but I can't divorce myself from the
>terrible suffering. This is us. We are doing this, not them. As long as we
>are breathing, we have the power to affect the dream. We will be sentient
>dreamers.

Gerardus here:
Yes, you have the power to affect the dream - ONLY your dream however. The
dream of others is their creation! No one is here to change others and/or
their dream. That is their responsibility. Life in the universe and the
world is not governed by the niceties of society and their social
consciousness of what is right or wrong! The "Beings in Charge" of raising
the levels of awareness of humanity, work by a different standard than the
"Silent Night - Holy Night" mentality the masses go by. Human Life is a
very tough deal and it is an opportunity to raise our awareness level and
see through what's happening. The game that is played - or the performance
that is orchestrated - by those in charge is designed to elevate the
awareness of as many human souls as possible...
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DM here:
>Our leaders are gangsters and satanists. We must stand up now. If not, we
>may never again have the opportunity. Where we stand now may be our last
>stand. Humanity is better served by ten minutes of freedom than a hundred
>years of slavery.

Gerardus here:
Gangsters and satanists "is" that a judgment?
Maybe a hundred years of slavery are necessary in order to have ten minutes
of freedom - who knows. If that is the way it is - that is the way it will
be. The trick is to raise the level of awareness of humanity - not how nice
it all looks and/or what a nice party it was. We leave all that up to aunt
Betty and her Church-Group knitting away. Meanwhile, that is their
progression in awareness for now...
------------------------

David posts:
>"First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I did not
>speak out. Then, they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I
>was not one of them, so I did not speak out. Then, they came for the Jews,
>but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out. And when they came for me,
>there was no one left to speak out for me." Martin Niemoeller (1892-1984)

Gerardus here:
All that is fine and dandy. No one has to speak for anyone - we all get
what we deserve! Then - nothing is changed by Force. If we do not approve
of a certain system we leave it the way it is - we do not oppose it...

Opposing will add more energy to the whole. We withdraw and invent a better
system - even if this is in the loneliness of our own being. This always
means that we forgive all the actors or players involved for what they are
doing because they do not know what they are doing. They are ego-driven -
that is the way many of us have been going through our lives before we
arrived at a deeper insight. The entire world scenario in my view is
exactly as it should be. This includes Mr Push and his Cabinet and all the
other actors on his side...

I trust the universe for I am it! - Gerardus



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Dec 04 2004
>J. wrote:
> > Well, Seth said we should create our own positive versions of mass
> > events and focus on those in response to the crap.
> > This seems in sync with Lennon's songs--simultaneously
> > imagining a better world, and letting the outer one BE.
> > Jen
> >
> >
>DM here:
>There is the idea that all individuals share "mind". The story of the
>hundredth monkey is an example. The simultaneous movement of birds in a
>flock, or fish in a school points to the presence of group mind, or
>telepathic communication. Lyall Watson, Fritof Capra and Michael Talbot
>wrote about it. This suggests that the experience of those in Fallujah
>(soldiers and citizens) is also our experience. It's affecting us directly.


Hello DM...
Gerardus interjecting:
Good points... But... But...   Humanity is past the Monkey Stage.
We share the Infinite Mind on an individual bases living in semi-separation
of this mind. When humanity separated from the Whole it went on an
individual (soul by soul) side trip of discovery and/or mental evolution.
An awareness gathering trip...

I do feel that there are different periods (Yugas) that make this possible.
So presently, we are all responsible for our own life and actions only. If
we all had to carry the "learnings" (read Karma) of others - no one could
be an individual without being weighted down. Presently, at any time in this
period, there might be more negativity than positivity - YET - some of us
awaken without feelings of guilt of what other humans do. These others are
on THEIR side trip of learning - we have no right to take that away from
them or prevent them from learning what is...

Then, I do feel that we not only share The Infinite Mind - We Are The
Infinite Mind awakening to itself. It allows aspects of itself to
separate and have this self-discovery journey. Anyway this is MY
opinion...

One does not have to agree - Gerardus

BTW: you are not alone in the way you think/feel. We have had other members
on TL who felt responsibility for what happens out there. All, if not most,
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At 02:52 AM 15/12/2004, you wrote:

>Leonard here...
>It seems to me that if we are to comprehend 'reality' as opposed to
>the 3D Illusion we take as our reality, we need to accept that there
>is no time and no space, and indeed no movement. Being strictly
>scientific, of course. No time, no space, no motion! ...there you
>have reality, creation, AllThatIs, what I am...and we are,,,,TIL!
>Here are a few scientific clues from Bashar, second only to Seth, IMO.

> With Love, Leonard.
>Bashar: Space Travel and Artificial Intelligence
>Q: Can you tell us of a particular scientific breakthrough that we
>would need, or a principle that we would need to understand, in order
>to evolve our space travel or our advancement -- one that you know of
>particularly, that if we could get it, we'd be really advanced?
>
>B: Yes. You are very close right now. Many of the individuals within
>your society who call themselves physicists understand -- I'll say,
>are beginning to understand -- that what you term in your society
>traveling in space is in a sense traveling on the skin of space, not
>really through it.


Hi Leonard... (Thank You)
Good piece from Bashar! Excellent!!
What we need to understand of "what is" - is this: we must learn to see
ourselves as Energy. The Energy of Awareness. TIL (The Infinite Light). It
is present infinitely as itself within itself, holding different nodes of
energy (light-vibrations), which form all the created in all densities. As
this Awareness we can "move" from node to node and be them at will...

Maybe to practise this we need to try a simple exercise first. Let's say:
You be Me and I be You. The point of this exercise actually means that
nobody will notice - not even ourselves.  So what's the use?  Let's forget
about it. Infinite Life "is" for the FUN of it...

Let's just be the best fun we can be - Gerardus
( Did you thank Bashar? )


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Dec 24 2005
>Leo...
> An interesting piece from St Germain that I share
> with you.......what do you make of it Sal?
>---------------------------------------------

>Wakeup Call Message December 22, 2004
>
>St Germain:
>My dear ones, this is a time for all of you to take a break and
>listen to your hearts. There is something afoot here that is about to
>split wide open. You will need to be in tune with your hearts in
>order to stay above all the stuff that is coming down. There will be
>a great rumbling in the united States and then all will explode into
>fire and promises left unbroken over the centuries. The truth will
>come streaming forth, and there will be many who will need your
>compassion and your prayers.

------- cut a lot -------------

Hi Leonard - Gerardus here:
Yes, I do think that there will be a "reckoning" and the entire sordid mess
will be exposed. No doubt 911 was an inside job and many other "beginnings"
of the wars in the last 50 years or more. Our so called Leaders and Rulers
will be ousted. Some might even be assassinated and/or impeached. Hang on to
you seat at the boob tube. Worldwide exposure coming up...

The time is ripe for all of this - Gerardus
(Time span 2005 to 2008/09 maybe sooner)


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Jan 8 2005: 
>J. here: 
>Right now, I am studying Lewis Carroll's Alice books from the 
>standpoint of humanity's "fall" from spirit into matter and 
>the "necessary play" as Gerardus calls it. I've always been a fan 
>of those books, and they only get more interesting with time. If 
>anyone has any ideas/insights on this, I'd appreciate it...

Hello J.... 
I think I have heard of those books, but I have never read them. Then, I 
feel that the "fall" from Spirit is a bit of a misnomer. We are STILL 
Spirits (or Universal Holograms) containing "All That Is" in holographic 
form. It is ALL within! However, in order to bring this to our conscious 
mind (or awareness) we need to go through a rigamarole of experiences in 
order for us to learn to remember who or what we actually are and fill in 
the hologram with knowing, wisdom or self-realization. This is done by 
living many lifetimes as human beings...

Human life then, is a school where we learn to remember, while the different 
games we play or the type of experiences we have do not matter one iota - as 
long as they awaken us to The Infinite Light (TIL) we actually are. TIL 
then, enters its creation (almost unconsciously) and experiences it again 
and again by means of all of us and eventually - learns how to not incarnate 
anymore into 3D...

That's when we stay in 4D/5D and learn how to take care of certain worlds 
and their populations. This might mean for example, in the case of earth, 
making sure there is some kind of Belief System in place this 3D people can 
believe in, in order to have experiences with others who believe in 
something different...

Teachings and Traditions teach us many things, but in the end we must know 
how to leave them alone and become fully dependent on our Inner Knowing or 
Intuition. I feel that people like Krishna, Buddha, Jesus and others have 
done that, and are now at a so called higher level directing the show. The 
higher levels support the lower in the same manner we support our pets or 
other animals...

Meanwhile all levels blend or mix by means of intuition - Gerardus



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Jan 12 2005
Subject: Re: [TL] Love and Science...

>Meredith here: 
>UFO lawyer Peter Gersten publishes a fascinating email 
>newsletter which contends that our reality is actually a cosmic computer 
>program. I wonder how he would respond to the concept of the cosmic 
>computer loving itself.

Hello Meredith...  
Well, when you just come out of Church and have been praying with your eyes 
closed - the entire idea of this Loving God being a Computer is outrageous 
naturally. The thing is, you've had your eyes closed too tight and too 
long. The more and more I think about it, with my small thinker, the more 
and more I agree to the idea that the universe "works" according to a 
perfect program which cannot be much interfered with. There are times, 
there are cycles, there are places, there are numbers tied to human 
personalities, there are birth dates that determine what and how one will be 
and behave. So, what do we get? A robot who thinks that he is free and 
knows something. Now what???

Then - we can mix all this up with Love and Creating Our Own Reality and it 
all sounds neat and most satisfying to the ego-mind. I am the Creator so to 
speak! Double Wow!! But, if we are a part of this Infinite Computer's 
Program - we also are a program - and we will never notice it as long as we 
have the illusion of free will and thinking we create something. The actual 
program stays hidden behind our own thoughts. Again... Now what?

For all I know, we might be like the symbols that appear on my screen when I 
type this post. These symbols find themselves very important because they 
stand for something - but are they? Type in a different language (computer 
programmed naturally) and these symbols mean absolutely nothing. They 
become 3D garbage! My delete button works like a tsunami! Meanwhile, more 
and more do I begin to lean towards what Gersten says...

There is a lot on his website and I have read nothing of it - but I get the 
idea that his idea about TIL and my idea - meet in the Universal CPU 
somewhere. They are synchronized and jive. Not to forget now, that if and 
when the Universal Computer loves itself - no doubt a bit of that is in the 
program I am - for it is me! Means, I also love myself, but in order to 
experience and know that, I need to get out of that Church and open my eyes...
The above comes from a mini CPU at turbo speed - Gerardus 
(I subbed to his newsletter)

BTW Meredith: 
Isn't it amazing what a little thought can do. 
They work like butterflies in China! Here it is:
I've been thinking again: 

I think that the universe is a mixture of Love and Science. 
Could it be that it is the Love of Science and that God or 
TIL is actually an Infinite Computer loving itself?

I love this post - Gee



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April 03 2005
>chris here: 
>Ok... I'm following you... The only valid teacher is the teacher within, 
>because external lessons, and the whole of the outside world, are created 
>from within.

Hi Chris... 
Yes, the reality we experience is created from within by means of what we 
are thinking or belief in. Our mind projects that into the so called "out 
there". Here it becomes "tricky" because ---- it is difficult, if not 
impossible, to tell who "creates" these thoughts or beliefs. They could be 
instilled by STS ETs and/or others. This really means that our reality is 
"created" by means of us, by means of our mind! In the mean time, we have 
the idea that we are the creators of these thoughts or beliefs - and then 
say: I create my own reality. It is like anything else ---> a yes/no affair...

MR Push for example thinks that God has chosen him to do what he does. 
Well, he is chosen alright, because he is the right type of average mind 
that can easily be obsessed (read possessed) by other Beings. These Beings 
rule or control the world - by means of all the Leaders and Rulers of the 
world. From where I am looking all this means that we as human souls go 
through an enormous amount of lifetimes before we start figuring all this 
out...

The whole thing is a Global-World-Game and it is played from higher levels. 
Naturally, we are also present on these higher levels and the trick is to 
become consciously aware on these levels. First of all naturally, we need 
to know that there are higher levels and what goes on there...

Note: 
I think the above also answers Mahrouk's question.
Here it is ---> Why is it that one does not hear things like, we create our 
own reality', from the mystics, Sufis, Bodhisattvas ...?

The answer is Yes/No - because the scenarios in the world are created by 
means of human instruments (read bio-computers) and these computers can be 
programmed. I am thinking here of religions, traditions, politics and other 
silly mind-sets). These human computers then think/feel/experience a 
reality they call physical reality. Meanwhie, all things or energies are 
mind - and or mind in form. It's a very complicated universal scenario we 
are all engaged in...

The Physical Reality, as we experience it, is a most beautiful and 
enormously crafty virtual manifestation (read invention) and presently we 
have the privilege to be here and experience it. After a enough lifetimes 
however, the whole thing becomes a bit boring since the lessons keep 
repeating themselves. It might be more interesting for example, to grow up 
and start to "play" our own games from a higher level in a conscious manner...




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May 03 2005
> QUESTION for SAL - from Su...
> 
> was it GEE WHIZ's past life in ancient Greece 
> where all these humourous quotes 
> bleed through from ??? 
> 
> i remember you once telling me 
> about a past life the two of us 
> old sages shared in ancient greece 
> 
Sal: Gee was an etheric guide to some of the famous Greek 
Philosophers, guiding and coaching from other planes. You and Gee were 
both spirits around the same time guiding and coaching many of Earth's 
teachers. You would occasionally "bump into" each other in the etheric 
realms and laugh and joke about it and then go back to your own thing.
No, I'm not seeing a physical embodiment you shared, but it sure 
seemed physical when you would joke and laugh and discuss the 
difficulties you faced when dealing with Earthly souls.
Gee got the quotes from overhearing and eavesdropping on many a 
conversation in a hallowed hall of learning.
--Sal

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At 07:24 PM 3/5/2005, you wrote:
> Gerardus Everardus Tros 
> December 25 1927, Hoorn, The Netherlands.

Sal here: 
Okay, a few highlights. This may seem a bit bizarre, but I'm seeing that you 
were a disciple of Krishna during his time on the Earth. You were also a 
practical jokester (represented as the "Fool" in the Tarot). You were very 
enlightened without a care in the world. Others tried to imitate you but 
failed due to their unresolved karmic issues.
I see no karmic lessons remaining in your soul path. You are now a watcher 
and you will watch the drama of the coming years unfold, with an occasional 
"Fancy that!" or "Oh my, how interesting," thrown in from time to time when 
you see a particularly engaging scene in the play.
You've been to Arcturus and Andromeda and a place called Chiron (not the 
asteroid). You had several lifetimes in the East and you resonate with 
Eastern Philosophy in a natural and no-big-deal sort of way.
Most of your soul family is off-planet and they are awaiting your ascension 
into fifth dimension. They view you as a bit stubborn, even though you do 
not come across that way to me at all. They are laughing and pointing 
etheric fingers at you, saying "The joke's on Gee, the joke's on Gee." I 
guess it's an inside joke, because they're not explaining it to me. That's 
okay.
There's more, but that's enough for right now.
--Sal 



At 07:24 PM 3/5/2005, you wrote:
> Gerardus Everardus Tros 
> December 25 1927, Hoorn, The Netherlands.

Sal here: 
Okay, a few highlights. This may seem a bit bizarre, but I'm seeing that you 
were a disciple of Krishna during his time on the Earth. You were also a 
practical jokester (represented as the "Fool" in the Tarot). You were very 
enlightened without a care in the world. Others tried to imitate you but 
failed due to their unresolved karmic issues.
I see no karmic lessons remaining in your soul path. You are now a watcher 
and you will watch the drama of the coming years unfold, with an occasional 
"Fancy that!" or "Oh my, how interesting," thrown in from time to time when 
you see a particularly engaging scene in the play.
You've been to Arcturus and Andromeda and a place called Chiron (not the 
asteroid). You had several lifetimes in the East and you resonate with 
Eastern Philosophy in a natural and no-big-deal sort of way.
Most of your soul family is off-planet and they are awaiting your ascension 
into fifth dimension. They view you as a bit stubborn, even though you do 
not come across that way to me at all. They are laughing and pointing 
etheric fingers at you, saying "The joke's on Gee, the joke's on Gee." I 
guess it's an inside joke, because they're not explaining it to me. That's 
okay.
There's more, but that's enough for right now.
--Sal 

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Gee's Response: 
Hello Sal... 
General comment first: It could all be true. 
It does not matter. I am what I am - the I AM!

Then this: 
""You were also a practical jokester 
(represented as the "Fool" in the Tarot).""
Some 25 years ago I had never seen the Tarot Cards. 
I pulled one just to see. I pulled The Fool!

After that I became worse - Gee 
(Thank You Sal for the Reading)

BTW: 
I do not know what the inside joke is. 
Except that the Joke is on us/me! 
Also, all jokes are inside jokes. What else?



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March 03 2005:
>J. here: 
>I don't know about that. That's not my inner experience of God/TIL. I 
>get the sense of its caring deeply. 
>I read somewhere that "the universe bends in your direction" and I 
>believe that is true.

Hi J.... 
My intuition tells me that there are Beings on a higher level than humans 
are, and yes, they do care for humans. They care a lot!! Naturally they do, 
for they are our Mental and or Spiritual Parents. We are their 'creation' so 
to speak. They care for us like we care for our children...

These Beings are not God or TIL. These so called higher Beings also have 
TIL flowing or living within them. I feel that the Universe runs on the 
Power of TIL - like all our appliances run on the Power of Electricity...

This Power is not consciously aware, and\or loving, and\or hating, and/or 
fearing, and/or pleasing to any Being. It just is! It is the Infinite 
Subconsciousness or as I call it - The IS. It is our own Infinite 
Subconsciousness! However, since we see ourselves as limited beings, we 
think that we also have a limited subconsciousness. We are TIL doing its 
thing and by whatever we do we slowly become aware that we are TIL expressed 
as a reality...

We are infinite Giants living and thinking like limited Dwarfs - Gee


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March 11 2005
>Susanne here... 
>The body - our space suits can be massaged. It makes us feel alive. 
>How can we massage our spirits?

Hi Susanne... 
(Darn good question you have there) 
I figure that our emotions - be they love, fear, hate, sadness, joy, bliss, 
and all the rest of them - are the qualities that massage our spirit or soul 
by means of the feelings we experience. I do think that the experiences of 
spirits - to have emotions - or know what they are like - is one of the 
reasons we live in bodies in the first place. When we have learned how to 
train the body to behave like a God instead of like an animal - we have 
accomplished a lot...
Also, I feel that Awareness and/or Wisdom, Understanding or Love, are 
qualities of the soul or spirit. Whatever body/brains or body-minds gather 
in Knowledge, Awareness and Understanding is lost at the end of each 
lifetime - except what is valuable and remembered by the soul. This is what 
it gathers within itself and becomes! This could be called it's 
subconsciousness. Which is an aspect of The Infinite Subconsciousness (The 
IS). We could also call The IS - The Infinite Spirit or The Infinite Light 
- TIL. Then - in a way - the body and its habits and characteristics are 
like a suit that either fits the soul well - or makes it feel uncomfortable. 
Not at rest... itchy... looking for something... searching for itself...
Means detachment, acceptance, integrity and/or honesty - Gee



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April 07/2005
>Gee wrote: 
>And yes, the world happenings are occurring according to a plan! All in all 
>- it is beyond my comprehension that there is predestination as well as free 
>will. Possibly the clue is only fully comprehensible when we have learned 
>how to travel time. From a 3D perspective very little can be understood... 
> 
>Mahroukie here: 
>Yes true, one's vision from sea-level or 3D level, is limited. Perhaps, 
>climbing Mt. Everest would give one is slightly wider perspective?

Gee here: 
Yes, looking from a mountain top is equivalent to looking at things from a 
higher awareness level. We have "insight" then - which is more than "sight"! 
-----------------------------------

Mahroukie here: 
>Is there really "predestination as well as free" ? Perhaps that is a 3D 
>perception that, even for 3D, makes little sense? Is it " hope"? Perhaps the 
>ego cannot cope with the total helplessness/powerlessness of JUST 
>"predestination" ?

Gee here: 
First: 
Ego likes to be in control and if it encounters that it cannot be in 
control - it complains or finds faults...

Second: 
The 3D ego perception includes free will and Luck or bad Luck...

Third: 
Once we begin to think beyond 3D we get the notion that there is a Force 
that lives within ourselves - some call this Force God...

Fourth: 
4D and 5D thinkers know that we are the Force and have come to express 
ourselves in the physical on purpose. We know who or what we are! This 
means that the Force We Are calls the shots. Since we live in 3D in bodily 
form and the Force We Are has "merged" with our 3D body-mind thinking -- 
things become confusing for the two "mergers" so to speak. Trust comes into 
the picture. Trust by means of Intuitive Knowing - call it awareness of... 
-------------------------------------

Mahroukie here: 
>Who knows? Perhaps- the trick is to enjoy the 'show' and not to try to 
>analyse and understand ?

Gee here: 
Yes! That is one way of being at peace. Trust in God so to speak. That is 
what religious people are supposed to do. Meanwhile they kill their 
neighbors...

The entire universal Game is played from levels FAR above our understanding 
or awareness. Say it is arranged from level seven while we float between 3, 
4, and 5D levels. (Free Will or Intent is from level 7) To us Life 
is still a mystery...

Then, we know that we live on all levels - it is just that we are not 
consciously aware on all these levels. I experienced that my awareness 
makes quantum jumps once in a while and then I say: Aha! I see! Insight 
from the mountain top. The more experiences we have the more our awareness 
level increase toward the higher levels... 
-----------------------------------------------------

>Mahroukie here: 
>I don't always enjoy the show but I am fast reaching the WHO CARES... 
>thinking, about the 'why' of things.

Gee here: 
Understandable to say "who cares". It is all beyond us and to truly care 
can only be done on a local level. That's where we try to help. This is 
difficult because most people do not think they need help. They already 
think they know that there is not much more to know. Closed Mind Syndrome...

Conclusion: 
So we have Free Will from Level Seven say, but we encounter a lot of limits 
when we are conscious in human bodies...
Ramesh says on the back of his/your/my book:
"Live Life making decisions as if you have free will 
knowing that it is Consciousness (TIL) seeking, doing, deciding".

Gee here: 
I put (TIL) in there.
Ramesh is right! 
It is Consciousness (TIL) living within us "doing" its thing. We as 
instruments of TIL experience what it does. It cannot do anything without 
us (It is us). Sometimes we like what it does and sometimes we don't...
Our free will becomes more when our level of conscious awareness increases. 
In a time environment increasing our awareness is a slow process and kind of 
hard sometimes...
Eventually we will be Free - Gerardus



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June 2003
Gerardus here:
To whom it may concern... 
Different countries have different people and these different people have 
different levels of awareness. From my 75 years of experiences, and from the 
countries I have lived in and have visited, I would say that the level of 
awareness in "general" was very high in The Netherlands, Sweden, Norwegian, 
Germany, Denmark, England and Europe as a whole. Immigrate from there to 
Canada and you will meet people with a lower level of awareness. Go from 
there to the USA and in general you will find an even lower level yet. This 
does not mean that people with a higher level of awareness are better...

We all are actors playing in a Global Performance and play our part. 
Meanwhile, there is a Secret World Government that "creates" the necessary 
scenes for humans to experience. These experiences are necessary in order to 
bring us to higher levels of awareness. Many of these scenes repeat 
themselves. Like what Germany was like 70 years ago is what the USA is now. 
Consciousness in whatever form cannot learn anything in a perfect world. From 
there we could conclude that the more imperfect the world is - the more we 
are able to learn...

We are here to become aware, we are not here to live in a world were all 
things are perfect and having Tea-Parties is the most valuable thing one 
could do. Disasters, wars, suffering, abductions, and whatever else we 
experience on this earth are "introduced" by Nature and those who control it. 
As well as by those in control of the curriculum of Humanity and the lessons 
to be learned...

Yes, Governments can be changed. But what is really changed? A different 
name, a different face - that's all. Same deceptions! The Secret 
Government is in ultimate control. I do see that there are gross 
irregularities among Politicians that come to light - but also those who are 
running the show are here to learn their lessons. Who are to judge anyone? 
Ultimately there is no right or wrong - only lessons! The world is exactly 
as it should be. One needs to "see through" it - that is one of the most 
important lessons to be learned while we are here. My view however is but a 
human glance...

There is a season and time for all happenings - Gerardus



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June 2005
Gerardus here:
To One and All...
If it is true that all humans on earth are engaged in a Cosmic Play in order 
to learn - it means that we are all actors playing our roles in this 
collective performance. It could well be then, that some of us in the past 
were active in the Negative and others in the Positive. These roles 
naturally reversed themselves and this would mean that all of us have 
learned certain lessons by playing all kinds of different roles. By this I 
mean that no-one is really ahead or behind as a Soul or GodBeing...
Time and Space are illusions, as well as that the entire universe high and 
low is a Glorified Dream of the Infinite We Are! Therefore, all of us are 
equal!
The idea that some will be harvested in the future as Ra calls it - and 
others not - might not be the way it will be by the end of 2012. By this I 
mean to say - that all of us could be ready for a Collective Ascension or 
moving into a higher density. We as actors among ourselves "play" this 
performance for the entertainment and experience for all of us to learn to 
love and understand. Who is to say that some of us know or love or 
understand more than others? IOW: why leave any of us behind?? We are all 
the same TIL in human manifestation...
We are all figments in the Dream or Creation of the One Dreamer - the One We 
Are! Is not this the One who is waking up within all of us by means of all 
of us?

Is there anyone on TL who feels the same way about the above? - Gerardus



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June 2005 
Subject: [TL] Short Cuts on The Matrix is Within... 
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com 

Gerardus here:
I had a discussion on an other list and the following was said.
I think it also fits on TL - so here it is!
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>J. posted:
>Outside the Self there is nothing. All is one and all is contained
>in "I am". In the waking and dream states it is the person. In deep
>sleep and turiya [samadhi] it is the Self. Beyond the alert
>intentness of turiya lies the great, silent peace of the Supreme. But
>in fact all is one in essence and related in appearance. In ignorance
>the seer becomes the seen, and in wisdom he is the seeing. (68)
>etc. etc.

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>J. here:
>Gee - I think this is what you are saying, too, but I'm finding it a
>bit tricky to grok.  I seem to wander in and out of inspirational
>flashes, at the moment....


Gee here:
Yes!  It is tricky to grok because basically it is ungrokable. It is 
understood radically or by intuitional means.  One just knows without 
attempting to know!   It will come to us automatically I feel and the more 
we expect or look for it - the more our "mental-walls" keep it out...

Also, it might be wise to comprehend the following --> We all are The 
Infinite Light - FULLY.  Nothing is left out.  We just have not experienced 
this in an individual sense.  IOW: The Christ Within need to grow a bit 
more by surrendering to what is.  Trust The Self We Are...

I have read the stuff you copied J. and agree with it. What we forget is 
that the issue cannot be understood by means of words. It can only be 
experienced!  Means - we must just be what we are for now and it will 
happen. Be joyful!  Our very searching or desiring for it stands in the way 
of experiencing it I feel...

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>J. here:
>For me, it seems that a 'stream of consciousness' has awakened me to
>this realisation....and the source is outside the matrix mind
>(although All is One, damn, this is hard!).

Gee here:
All is One - YES!  That Oneness however has many aspect/us and we get lost 
thinking that we are "outside" or "inside" of it  -or- that it is all 
within us.  Not so!   We are it - but confused!  There is no "inside" or 
"outside" to it! We are confused  -or-  our 3D thinking is distorted 
because we do not grok the entire picture because we have not experienced 
it.  It's a vertical move in awareness...

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>J. here:
>Yes, I feel it is.  I (we) have created the holographic Illusion and
>the matrix is the same thing....a mental construct.  What you access
>is 'outside' of the matrix/mind because it's YOURSELF, pure
>Consciousness.  If you wish to transcend the matrix, I believe all
>you need to do is constantly affirm the dream and that you are the
>dreamer, that you are everything, as Gee says.  That means no
>polarity, at all.

Gee here:
Yes!  The Dreamer and Dream are one - but sooner or later the Dreamer wakes 
up and the dream falls away.  Within the Dream there are figments or rules 
that make up Matrixes or Mindsets. Adherence to, or the default following 
of any Mindset, keeps us in a prison.  Meanwhile, any Mindset is only an 
aspect of the Whole.  The whole has many Matrixes so to speak - but no 
Matrix contains the whole!  A Matrix is only a specific hologram of the 
whole. The Whole contains many.  We could say that our Matrix is our 
Subconsciousness or Soul.  It needs help by either more experiences and/or 
different energies that awaken us further...

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>J. here:
>It's the mind which is enslaving us, that's my point.  It's a self-
>inflicted prison; there's nothing else out there.  As Sri
>Nisargadatta Maharaji says, there is literally nothing outside, at
>Consciousness level, so the hologram must be the dream too.

Gee here:
Yes, the ideas we have -or- our mindset forms the walls of our prison.  It 
is self-inflicted but this is unavoidable.  We need to reach its limits and 
make a quantum jump to escape. This might happen to those who are "close" 
when 2012 hits us for example.  There are automatic awareness-releases so 
to speak in this new energy that hits us day in day out.  This means that 
some of us will awaken sooner and others later...

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>J. here:
>I can see you're fixed on this but it's unusual for you not to be
>open to discussion.  As you've said before, our rants aren't
>circular, they're spiral.  Between us, we are finding the answers,
>slowly.  One of the keys to freedom is to establish whether or not
>the matrix is within us.  It's crucial to our understanding.

Gee here:
Our Beingness - Us or The Universe - contains all Matrixes and/or 
Mindsets.  Each Matrix is a specific way of thinking and or 
deception/distortion.  Presently, we live life within our Matrix in a 
default manner.  We do not know any better until we feel-reason this out. 
This is speeded up by networking ideas so to speak.  So!  We presently have 
by default surrendered to our own specific Matrix which is different for 
each one of us - we all create our own...

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> > Until, that is, something of a major shift occurs in our minds -
> > [aka, at this level of being, our DNA] - by which we will be able
> > to see beyond the limitations of our current perspectives.>
>
>J. here:
>This discussion is part of the shift.


Gee here:
YES!  Exactly!!
It changes our DNA automatically. As I have said in my writing in other 
places/articles - we literally talk/think/receive/intuit ourselves into a 
more enlightened state continuously.  We can't help but grow in awareness...

I do feel that...
Our progress is automatic but one can help some - Gerardus

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Gerardus here:
Some days ago I posted some of my discussions from another list to TL.
The following is the continuation of it. Some new members might like this...

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M. here again:
In fact, on that thought, wasn't it George Orwell [a British Secret
Service agent] who was famous for having said:

"If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if
the mind itself is controllable - what then?"


Gerardus here:
There is no 3D world out there. All takes place in mind/awareness. (See
David Icke latest book or read my articles).  Then this: The mind is like a
computer!  This computer has a programmer. This programmer is asleep and
wakes up because of the programs that are imposed upon it from the so called
"outside".  Sooner or later the programmer wakes up and becomes smart enough
to program its own mind.  This is a bit by bit learning affair. Pretty soon
we know that we create our own reality...

The ChristMind is born - Gerardus

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 >  Hi Gerardus, enjoyed your responses to J. have a few
 >  questions/comments.
 > >
 > > I have read the stuff you copied Julie and agree with it. What we
 > > forget is
 > > that the issue cannot be understood by means of words. It can only be
 > > experienced!  Means - we must just be what we are for now and it will
 > > happen. Be joyful!  Our very searching or desiring for it stands in
 > > the way
 > > of experiencing it I feel...

J2 here:
 >I agree on the importance of just being, but if we have a strong desire
 >for something, that's part of our being, isn't it?


Hello J2 - Gee here:
Within manifestation nothing comes about without desire. Creations need
impulse. Meanwhile, whatever we experience as a desire needs to be fulfilled
since suppression desires plugs the flow of the universe.  The light within
us would diminish and the body we are in would get sick with suppressed
goodies so to speak...
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J2 here:
 >I've heard it said that desire is a prayer...

Gee here:
Call it anything you like. It does not makes it what it is. Basically the
entire universe is a prayer - a Prayer to the Creator We Are.  A wish
fulfilled...

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  > Gee here:
  > our 3D thinking is distorted
  > because we do not grok the entire picture because we have not experienced
  > it.  It's a vertical move in awareness...

J2 here:
What's that mean--a vertical movement in awareness?

Gee here:
A vertical movement is a Gigantic Lightbulb Moment that might blind us for a
second. When this blindness clears we are in 4D so to speak.  We think and
feel differently now because our understanding of things has expanded.  We
are higher up on the Awareness Totem Pole!  Now, there are different
Gigantic Lightbulb Moments. For some they happen fast for others they take
place over thirty years. That's me!

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  > Gee here:
  > A Matrix is only a specific hologram of the
  > whole. The Whole contains many.  We could say that our Matrix is our
  > Subconsciousness or Soul.  It needs help by either more experiences
  > and/or different energies that awaken us further...

J2 here:
That was my feeling also, that the Matrix is not the same thing as the
larger hologram or dream.   But how do you get that the Matrix is our soul?
I would think that it would be more akin to our ego.

Gee here:
I spoke from my point of view or understanding!  A human being is like a
house with two masters.  The Ego and the Soul.  For most people the Ego is
dominant and for a few the Soul is peeping through and gets a word in
edgewise (There is this "me" again).  When the Soul becomes dominant the Ego
slowly dies because of a lack of attention.  It's a natural process.  When
that happens the Soul enjoys more vertical movements in awareness and cuts
right through the supper-imposed Matrix that is fed to the Ego-Masses.  From
then on in, the Soul begins to create/live/see beyond the Matrix or Mind-Set
in which the masses are stuck or imprisoned...

It is reaching and building its own Matrix or Soul then - Gerardus
(I have said before - *The IS* We Are - is an individual creation)
(( The IS - The Infinite Subconsciousness or Creator ))

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Hi Gerardus, one more thing...

Gerardus wrote:
  > Yes!  The Dreamer and Dream are one - but sooner or later the Dreamer
  > wakes up and the dream falls away.

J2 here:
And when the dream falls away--what is left?  Just pure Awareness?

Gee here:
Yes... Whatever pure Awareness is...
In the mean time - good question!
My answer is an iffy. Means, I do not know for sure, but I figure/intuit
that we have reached "The One We Actually Are" with full Conscious Awareness
and/or Self-Awareness and/or Self-Realization.  This means to me that we
will be able to materialize any body at will and or channel anyone human...

Also we will be able to visit any occasion in our creation at any time and
space or dimension.  More often then not so to speak, we leave things alone
because we know that All Is Well!  There might be periods however where we
feel the need to help others like all Masters do in their own way.   NOW!
That was a lot of intuiting and I suggest that you either endure or enjoy it
with a bit of salt. It might be lacking something...
That's it Folks - Gee



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July 2005
Subject: [TL] What is happening to our world?
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com

Gerardus here:
Our world is a Three Dimensional Expression of the Universe. These 
Expressions run in cycles and we have come to the end of our 3D cycle 
by the year 2012. To Humanity this means that the 3D world will be 
phased out. How is this done? Simple! A lot of it will be done by 
Mankind itself and the rest will be taken care of by Mother Nature... 

The majority of people are not aware that this "phasing out" is 
presently taken place and there will be an enormous amount of energy 
wasted to keep this 3D world in tact. In all ways, we could say that 
the phasing out of the 3D world is an Act of God. No human effort is 
able to par that kind of stuff... 

As many of us on TriLite know, the Universe (and the world) is a 
multi-dimensional phenomenon and when one 3D door closes - other doors 
will open. Which door we will enter depends on the level of our 
awareness. This is different for everybody and what we will experience 
when we have gone through the next door is still a nifty secret to me. 
I know for sure however - there are many doors and we will be taken 
care of according to the level of awareness we have reached. There is 
nothing to be concerned about...

All comments are welcome - Gerardus

Note:
The above post became part of my Opening Statements.
(http://www.soulwise.net/opstat01.htm)

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