Introduction: This is Irene Probert speaking, it is Friday, February 7, 1964. We are in the recording studio of the Inner Circle Kethra E'da Foundation, at 926 31st Street, San Diego. California. We are holding a deep trance lecture by Mark Probert and the Members of the Inner Circle of the Kethra E'da Foundation.
Yada: I think we will continue with what we were speaking of last week, huh?
Man: That's very good.
Irene: How the mind affects the body?
Yada: Yes. How thoughts are built into the body and are actually the elements that cause sicknesses and, not only sicknesses, but all the things that happen to us, good, bad and indifferent. You see, everything, no matter what, was a thought at one time, an idea finding itself in the creative mind and then the conscious mind makes contact with it and puts its feelers out (called the senses) and makes things appear to the Creator, as what he wants them to appear. Now - not consciously wants, but in the mechanics of the nervous system, making measurements of a variety of vibrations.
Irene: When you say this, Yada, I think that we must keep in mind, that these tapes are going to be rented out.
Yada: That is right, that is very nice.
Irene: And that we must conform our talks to something that is constructive.
Yada: Oh, why talk if we do not do that?
Irene: Well, there are times when I know that I don't keep my questions and my thoughts to the benefit of the subject matter and it doesn't make for a good tape.
Yada: Yes, I feel that in order to at least try to sound intelligent, we ought to keep our subject continuity.
Irene: Yes. Yada, pertaining to the subject, we had a friend here yesterday, you know Katie, and she was speaking on a study that she has made. Are you aware of what I am referring to?
Irene: Regarding this person - he thinks that he has discovered a way of reducing the lessons one needs to complete the wheel - by reducing some of the reincarnations. I said, that I thought the Inner Self did not disclose to the individual all of the secrets of how life expresses itself. This might be his own secret path and I don't think it can be said that everybody has the ability to bring this out to the surface. Is this true?
Yada: Well now, I think we have immediately gone off of what we have been conversing about - subject continuity.
Irene: Well, this is true.
Yada: So I'm going to talk about that later and we'll tie it in with what we started out to talk about.
Irene: Uh huh.
Yada: And you will make note of this as I go along here, so you listen for that. In case you feel that I am somehow missing some strings to tie together, you tell me that, huh?
Irene: Uh huh.
Yada: Now, we humans, we dearly desire to find some way we can avoid things. That we can somehow or another skip pages of our lives, as it were. This means we think there is an easy passage. There is no easy passage! There is no skipping! If you skip, you have to come back sooner or later and read those pages, study those pages. I have said it in the past and I repeat it again, there are ways and means of avoiding what may be called the reaping of negative karma.
Yada: But you see .... .... ... .. ..... and about that I will talk of later.
Irene: Yes. This is the subject we wish to talk about later.
Irene: The subject we wish to bring up now, is the subject that Mr. R. asked you about last week and you wish to continue with this.
Yada: Yes. That is right.
Mr. R: May I say something, Yada?
Yada: Yes, please.
Mr. R: The thought originates in the heart center and is worked upon in the brain. From the brain it goes to the medeler oblongata, where it is distributed throughout the entire spinal nervous system. It also goes to the pituitary body, from whence it goes to the dena center in the throat, and from the dena center in the throat, it is then distributed throughout the entire nervous system.
Yada: This is right.
Mr. R: And then as to these influences, they will work upon the blood and modify the cells of the entire body, even through the bone structure.
Yada: That is right, because as you know, the ... ..... ... not only our blood cells manufactured in the marrow of the bones, but all the cells. The marrow of the bones is the center where cellular structure is created and projected into the body.
Now, thoughts, as can very easily be demonstrated, have their direct effect upon the body, and each different thought has its effect upon different organs and different glands of the body.
Well, you would suppose that your medical world would recognize this fact and have a center where people can come and talk out some of the thoughts that they have sown into themselves in the past. Not necessarily past lives, but in their younger years. Talk these out so as to get rid of the cause of the sickness. When a person knows what started their ailment, their chances increase to rid themselves of that ailment, even though it is in an advanced stage. If you get at the cause, which is a thought or a series of thoughts, and attitudes to these thoughts, you can get rid of the sickness or bring it to a halt, so that it will stop in due course. You cut off the source and the sickness will digress.
Francis O: Question.
Yada: Does sickness originate in the heart center?
Yada: All feeling is in the heart center. Every thought produces a feeling! Every thought! These thoughts upset the sympathetic nervous system. Now it is known, that persons having, let us say, a pain in the head - the sickness, the cause of the sickness, may not be in the head at all. It may be in some other part of the body such as the stomach. One can have trouble with the lower part of their body such as swelling of the legs; but it may be centered in the blood. You may get a lack of red corpuscles which may create a variety of sicknesses in the body.
Francis O: Is this lack of red corpuscles, again, does this originate in the heart centers?
Yada: The thought of it does, there is something troubling this person. The thought is what we will call, for convenience sake, a negative thought, meaning a destructive thought.
It is a thought that leads to, eventually, destruction of the body. It is a suicidal thought. You see, we do not want to come here. The majority of us project here with no real desire to come here. We get lost in our desires and a memory of an earth life will come back to us, not as an earth life, but as a way of expressing ourselves.
Our Creative Self has a way of expressing our Creative Self and when this comes to us, we have, most of the time, we have no thought of this thought pulling us into a place called the earth plane. We simply wish to shift our position; so that we can satisfy some desire which is a thought. You have heard ... .... .. your American expression that you sometimes have a desire for something, but you do not know what it is, but "it eats at you". As you Americans would say. "It becomes like an itch that you cannot scratch".
You see, it is called an unconscious desire. Now the inner self, it knows what it wants, but it does not relay this information to what is called the consciousness of the entity. So, that one, coming back to the earth, is simply moved by a desire to change his position. This is all he is thinking of, this is all that is in his mind. In changing his position, he feels he will find a way to get an answer to this unconscious irritation that is going on in him. So it plunges him back into the physical world, or it may move him simply into another state of meditation above the lower astral plane, if that is where he is at the time. It may move him up or down, back or forth according to what this creative self feels it needs to get that one into action, into creative action.
Now in entering the physical world, it may appear that the entity has lost consciousness, but it has not really. It's consciousness now is all served up in the one thought of building a form that is related to the physical world, if that is where he is coming. Now in the father's body, he becomes a pressure and what is called a biological irritation. In passing from the father's body to the mother's body, he will hold that position with the thought only in mind of building his form. He has carried with him an exact number of building blocks called genes and chromosomes from his father's body and will pick up an exact number of them from his mother's body and he will use these to form his body. Now while he is in the process of making this body, he can be disturbed by his mother's thoughts, not as thoughts but as feelings.
Mr. R: Yada, could I question here?
Yada: Yes, please.
Mr. R: It takes 280 days, or ten Lunar months, for a child to be born. The other three Lunar months are finished in the physical body when he's .... ... the child is 85 days old.
Mr. R: Now, at the time of conception .... ... that takes place under a certain astrological sign, and now the following eight signs, making a total of nine signs, the child is growing in his mother's body. Now, do those signs affect his life.
Yada: Oh of course, of course and this is why your modern astrologers give very little account of this, the actual time of conception is when we are truly born.
Mr. R: Now, when the child is born, the sign under which he is born is placed in his aura in front of him, are these other signs also in his aura?
Yada: Yes, and they may cause a great deal of trouble for that entity, because he is not aware of them.
Mr. R: No, I understand that these signs maintain their place in the individual's aura throughout his entire life, because the aura does not revolve. (evolve?)
Yada: That is right, that is right.
Mr. R: So then he is really subject to all of these influences from the 12 entire Zodiacal signs all of his life?
Yada: Yes. Yes. And no matter what is done, these are not going to be destroyed. They can be modified to some degree but that is all, and the modification is certainly brought about by properly educating that person regarding his whole nature as a human being and as a Creator.
Mr. R: Well the influences from the sign under which conception takes place, would that be his most inner nature?
Yada: That is right.
Mr. R: Then they gradually decrease as he is being born.
Yada: That is so.
Mr. R: Well, what about these three signs that take place after the child is born to complete the Zodiacal year?
Yada: These are brought out to him consciously in making up his chart. Now, I am under the very strong belief, that if .... ... .... ..... when a child is born into the world, he should have someone who knows, who understands astrology very much, to make his chart, beginning from the time of his conception, and then from the time of his birth into the physical world. Many peoples start only from the time of birth and in doing this, they cut off memory of very important things that have to do with those three signs after his birth.
Irene: But I can remember of the subjects you discussed with us pertaining to astrology, you have told us that the people here who are astrologists do not have a complete . ... . . .
Yada: Understanding ... ....
Irene: Understanding of astrology.
Yada: That is so.
Irene: A great deal of it is lost. So, could they make a chart that would be ... ....
Yada: Well of course, if they do not know, they do not know and it will not help.
Irene: There is no place that .... ...
Yada: There are some that do however.
Irene: They do?
Yada: Yes, there are some that do, they do not know the whole picture. But I feel that there should be periodical charts drawn up.
Irene: Uh, huh.
Yada: And I think at least two a year should be made.
Irene: By a reliable person?
Irene: Thank you, Yada. What were you going to say, Mr. R?
Mr. R: Now, Yada, these three signs after birth, do they represent things that the child is to attain? Or influences that are very influential on his life?
Yada: Yes, of course, and you see, these three signs contain a great deal of knowledge regarding that child before it came into the physical world. They have to do with that which happened to him at the point of his death before he came back into the physical world. His death in the past incarnation and then his death in the astral world, to come here.
Mr. R: Are these signs placed in the aura also?
Yada: They are and they should show up around the heart center. They should show there because they are deeply imbedded and deeply related to the feeling self.
Mr. R: And that is the cardiac plexus?
Yada: That is right, yes. Oh . . . . . now you see, there are many things more to the person than appears on the surface. But in your world, you have been taught to look only at the surface of things. What's going on in the here and the now, in the physical world. In doing this, you cannot see a clear picture regarding the nature of that person.
Doctor: Proceeding from these thoughts, we could then say that for most of us, our lives are compelled.
Yada: That is . . . . Oh, yes . . . much more compelled than thought out or planned. We, you see, the majority of us, are compelled to come here to the physical world, it is not something we plan out. Now, there are some that do and when such persons get to your physical world they show themselves as having planned to come here by their state of awareness.
Doctor: Among those that are compelled, Yada, is that left up to the choice among some of us as to the type of life?
Yada: Yes, there is a leeway there that can be taken advantage of and sometimes is even quite beyond the awareness of the individual.
Doctor: My friend, Yada, if the entity we are is compelled, are we responsible for what we do?
Yada: WeII ... .... Responsibility. The word, the expression and what it means, covers a great deal of ground. It is a hard thing to deal with, any fact responsible ... .... (Yada's voice fades)
Yada: That is all right, I am all right, I'm doing what is called "thinking". Laughter.
Mr. R: Yada, would you say that the responsibility of the individual would depend upon his ability to let the primal will operate through him. When he tries to rule things with his objective mind, then he assumes the responsibility.
Yada: Yes, and he had better be ready to assume, because he is at least pretending to act consciously now.
Mr. R: Well, that is what all this yogi and occult training is for, to condition the person so that the primal will can operate through him.
Yada: That is right and this is the way it should be, because you see, until we develop and until we accept some way, some method, some process of developing consciousness or awareness, we have no will. In your Christian Bible it is said that God made man and gave him a wiII to choose this or that way of Iiving. This is not true. A will is something we have to become conscious of first. After that then, we have to become conscious beings before we can say, "I will this to happen", or "I wiII against it". It is like you said, Sir, most of what seems to be man's will, is compulsion, not a plan, but an unconscious urge.
Mr. R: The will and the memory are never embodied in a human being, but a lot of people think they have a memory and a will.
Yada: Oh, but no, but no, and again, mentally - - - what does most of our memory consist of? Rather insignificant things, I mean unimportant things. The really important things we pass up. Not intentionally, not willingly, but quite unconsciously, because we are not aware of them. I will. Until we become at least to a degree masters over our life, we have no will. We have to develop the will to become a master in the first place.
Francis O: In this earth existence this is possible?
Yada: Oh yes, yes. Observe in your hours of meditation, if you do that, you can learn to develop a will, you can learn to guide your life, instead of letting your life be guided by unconscious urges.
Mr. R: Well, in a person guiding his own life, he should follow the dictates of the heart center rather than of the brain.
Yada: Of course. Because now, here, I have mentioned very often the importance of living in our feeling world. Now this is difficult to do for a person who does not know the inner teachings, because his emotions get caught up, or he gets caught up in his emotions, etc. So that any of his choosing, or making choices, are emotional choices.
Francis O: Mr. R, you say the final will operates through the heart center rather than the brain?
Mr. R: The primal will works through the . . . . . . (wait a minute now, let me picture) . . . . . the Mars Center.
Lady: Where's that?
Yada: The Mars Center?
Irene: What is the Mars Center?
Mr. R: Prosthetic Angelian.
Irene: Well now, that's talking Greek to me, I don't know any more than I did in the beginning.
Mr. R: Well from there it goes up to the heart center.
Irene: Well, where is this center?
Mr. R: This angelian?
Yada: In the brain?
Mr. R: No, it's below the naval.
Yada: Uh, thank you. This is what they were wondering about.
Mr. R: It goes from there up to the heart center.
Irene: This is in the solar plexus area?
Mr. R: No, no, It's not there.
Yada: No, it is below, it is greatly related to Kundalini also.
Irene: I see.
Yada: Because it is the Kundalini force, or, let us call it energy, through that, then passed through as nervous energy, through the feeling self to the brain center, back from the brain center to the heart center.
Irene: When you think of the heart center, are you speaking of the area around what we call our physical heart?
Yada: That is right.
Irene: Thank you.
Mr. R: It is most specifically the cardiac plexus.
Francis O: Mr. R. isn't the prostatic angelia in the sex center?
Mr. R: Yes.
Francis O: I thought it was.
Man: Very basic.
Mr. R: Yes, the Theosophist attributes that to the spleen. In order to keep the mind off that center, because when you arouse the Kundalini, you're very apt to go into negative psychism unless you keep your mind off of it.
Yada: This is so and this is why it is best if you are going to do any mental work, that you restrain from any kind of sexual thought, even much less practice. Because the thought will stir, will excite the sex center and you will not be able to do anything. It can excite it to the degree that it will destroy your desire to do your higher mental work.
Mr. R: The aim of the Yogi is to raise the Kundalini Force up to the brain where it gives power to his words.
Yada: That is right.
Mr. R: And this power in the brain is appreciation from the Kundalini, is called otus.
Yada: Oh yes.
Francis O: Well, Mr. R, when we do this, one almost loses interest in women.
Mr. R: No, not necessarily, we control it.
Yada: That is right, he controls. You see, again, there is a difference between controlling and frustrating. Control is something you do consciously with purpose: frustration is what you do unconsciously and without purpose, so that you go around saying, "I have an itch that I cannot scratch".
Irene: Must one practice celibacy to reach higher states of awareness constantly, or can one have periods of celibacy and then periods of entering in on the expression of the sexual, or the cohabitation expression?
Yada: Well, this depends very much on the person, the temperament of the individual. Question is, are you going to do a painting or a writing of some kind, or some creative work....
Yada: Now, this vital fluid keeps the nervous system healthy so that the brain can plot out intelligently the work it is going to do. So it is, best to have a period of celibacy until at least your creative work in this direction is acquired, is accomplished.
Irene: I see.
Mr. R: I think Vivkananda, in the book Raja, the Yoga explains that on pages 59, 60 and 61. If you get that book and read it, it will explain it to you.
Yada: Very nice, very nice, because you see, as I say, here let us say you are going to paint a picture. If you have used up all your paints already for other things, then you have no material to paint with, huh?
Doctor: Yada, is there a connection then between genius and celibacy? Your restraint or ... ....
Yada: Not really, not really. A genius is something that is brought over from some lifetime or series of lifetimes. When such a one gets into the hereness and nowness of this lifetime, the present life time, he shows himself as a genius. It is a memory pattern. Everything is already in his power to do. Unfortunately, and I say unfortunately, because it is because of this - because of the mechanics of a genius - very often he finds himself freely dissipating his energies and degrading them in a way that gives him guilt feelings.
Mr. R: Yada, would you say that geniuses have a super-abundance of ability along certain lines?
Yada: Of course, yes, because a genius does not mean one who is accomplished in all fields, but just in perhaps only one field. In some others, he may be an idiot. He may be an idiot genius. Laughter.
Francis O: On the subject of accomplishments Yada, would you again then say that great restraint in sexual matters would thereby increase your strength for other channels?
Yada: Oh, I believe so, yes, because this is simple. You can see how true it must be by the simple fact of expressing yourself sexually through the sex centers, and then try to be creative in other works right after it, huh?
Francis O: Then again, let's face what we have on this earth plane. Let's look at the people on it. Isn't this civilization induced and excited constantly to dissipate this creative energy through random and wasteful sexual practices?
Yada: Oh of course. In your modern world and let me say, it is not only your modern world, let us go back to any civilization that was truly in an advanced state, because in the more advanced state a civilization is the more prone the people are to spend their lives in dissipation.
Mr. R: But this is nothing, Yada, but the result of judging everything from appearances and this symbol, like ... ... .. the snake in the Garden of Eden.
Yada: That is right, that is right. Now, one can get just as addicted to sex, as to liquor, to tobacco, to drugs, and the withdrawal symptoms are equally bad.
Man: Is it possible that some mental retardation cases could be attributed to previous life times of sexual excesses?
Yada: Oh yes, of course. You know, when sex is practiced in excess, it tends to soften the brain as it were. By that I mean to say, as a minimum it cuts down the electrical flow in the brain centers.
Mr. R: It deflects the Kundalini from the brain, the Kundalini does not have an opportunity to develop into otus, or brain power.
Yada: That is right, that is right.
Man: Well what does this loss do then, if you regain it. Laughter.
Yada: Yes, of course you can, but it is going to take, depending on how much you have dissipated, it is going to take you time to do this and it is going to take you work, a great deal of restrained practice, what you call that other word? . . . . self denial . . . . wherein you feel no denial, no sacrifice. You see, as soon as we imagine that we are denying ourselves something, then we want it all the more.
Mr. R: Like cigarettes?
Yada: That is right, it becomes increasingly more difficult to break away from it. This means, we have to learn to break away naturally, by not wanting to carry on that way.
Francis O: Yada, it just makes me think of the tragic waste, when so much of this negative action on the part of the people is compelled and they don't know what they're doing and then, when finally they do begin to wake up, they face the consequence of lack, brought about during the time they did not know what they are doing. There again, it's the same power ... .... ..... .... that's why we need true educators from the very beginning to help each entity.
Yada: That is right. Now in the latter twenty, thirty, perhaps fifty years of my civilization, sex was rampant in a dissipating way. There was orgies of unbelievable vileness, unbelievable. In your Christian Bible it is speaking of cities, of two cities, twin cities, Sodom and Gomorrah. You know of that, huh?
Yada: That's what destroyed those cities. That's what brought them to their knees. Their destruction. This was the same way in Greece. After a time the attention paid to the body-beautiful led to tremendous desires for bodies, great fascination of the body. And thereby, this drove peoples into sex excesses and it softened Athens to such an extent their enemies outside came in and destroyed them.
Mr. R: Yada, doesn't that all stem from a misunderstanding of the teachings?
Yada: Of course, of course.
Mr. R: Certainly that should be explained very explicitly, because people get the wrong idea about .. . .
Yada: Is so. Now give a man nothing to do and in a short time his mind reverts to his sex organs.
Francis O: What teaching are we getting today in this country? What are we getting? It's a vacuum.
Yada: Of course it's a vacuum, and it was a vacuum in the latter years of my civilization, and so it was with Greece, Ancient Greece, and so it was with the Ancient Mayans, the Great Inca peoples. Slowly but surely they were destroyed by their sexual ambitions and excesses.
Francis O: Maybe this earth of ours, this civilization is now in its latter stages?
Yada: Of course, of course.
Lady: Yada, we're talking about dissipation, but when people love each other, isn't a certain amount of sex healthy?
Yada: Of course and should be practiced between these peoples. There is something with proper affection for one that you are mating with, that adds health to both parties.
Irene: Tremendous amount of relaxation
Irene: And it's very beneficial. It's the over-indulgence of these things that Yada has been referring to and with . . . . . . and you just can't over-indulge if you love a person, because you don't do these things.
Yada: No, of course not. Now, there is a great deal of talk in your modern times about man, the male, becoming impotent long before he should. In the earlier years it was thought that such peoples were physically impotent, that it was a physical condition, but in your more modern times, it is known by your psychologists and psychiatrists that this is not so. It is a mental block that has developed either through acquiring jaded tastes and feelings about sex, or about anger, and jealousies, and suspicions, and fears regarding others. So that after a time, these affect our sexual drives. You see, it comes under the heading of giving. GIVING. Now a child, let us go to a child. If a child becomes angry enough and if this entity feels that it is not getting attention that it needs for its growth, it begins to say to itself, "I am not getting, so I am not going to give".
Francis O: That's right.
Yada: "Not getting" often results in resentment. It causes constipation in children .... ... .. and if this goes on for along time, it becomes known as chronic constipation.
Irene: Uh huh, holding of the breath and things.
Yada: Oh, holding of the breath, what you call asthma. People that have asthma, it is supposed that all of these peoples are either - - - - what you call allergic to this, that, or the other thing, but this isn't so; it is a dread that they are not being accepted. That inside there is a burning resentment. When this happens in childhood, you wiII watch the development of asthma. A child that holds its breath repeatedly, when it cannot get what it wants, makes the first steps to asthma, because the diaphragm takes on the thought, the idea of malfunctioning, not going to breathe. This is to threaten the parents so the child can get what it wants. If this is repeated, after a time that gasping affects the bronchial tubes, in fact the entire respiratory system, and causes it to create irritations within itself. It has nothing to do with outside things. But, to have something to blame it on other than itself, it will react to such things as pollen, dust, or various chemicals. These are excuses, these are saying, "He did it", "it did it", "it is doing it to me, I'm not responsible." - You see?
Francis O: Yada, Mr. R. said that the teachings are misunderstood. I'd like to say - "What Teachings"? Where? What teachers? Where? If the Inner Teachings are so essential, then why are they not more available?
Yada: They are available, but the greater number of minds in your world are off on self pleasure, self satisfaction of the body. There are so very few that are seeking mental pleasures. When one learns to enjoy things mentally, the enjoyment physically, when you get it, is tremendously greater. But if you do not have mental enjoyment first, if you do not use this and comprehend it, you will find yourself constantly being driven, seeking one kind of satisfaction or another but never getting it. It goes back to having an itch you cannot scratch and the victim, I must say victim, does not know what is causing this. Some people say, "Oh, the reason this person is in the trouble they're in, they are not getting enough sex, when indeed they may be cohabiting in a variety of ways, day in and day out, and still they are in a state of deep frustration and anxiety and getting sickness of body. So you see that is not the answer.
The answer is appreciation, the answer is association with those we love and feel affection for. So that we feel that we are wanted and that we are giving to the one who wants us, we are also giving to them. Otherwise, to satisfy my own desires, I can satisfy them or should I not say gratify them; never satisfy them, only when we share with those we love and who love us, do we get satisfaction.
Francis O: Yada, by teachings, I mean what happens here, now. I see the people whom I've met in my travel, or I travel with, many people, they have no choice. In the desert, they haven't any choice, they have no teaching.
Yada: Of course.
Mr. R: They have no choice, they have no teaching but church, but there are no teachings.
Yada: It is like you say, it is like walking in a vacuum. True. All right. You recognize these facts and I am certain that Mr. R. is quite aware of it too, but what are you going to do about it?
Audience: 'Um . . ... . . .
Mr. R: There's just one thing, Yada, it's up to the individual.
Yada: Of course. You see, the study of life is not 10,000 people, but one person. That person is called You!
Doctor: You mean that I, once studied enough, will find my way?
Yada: That is right, that is right.
Mr. R: Yada, there is nobody who has all the knowledge tied up in a little paper sack so he can hand it out to whomsoever they wish.
Yada: That is right, that is right. Now everybody in your world is getting what is coming to them.
Audience: Oh, oh, what about the hunger for water? You can be in a desert where there is no water. Laughter.
Yada: Yes. You will then die of thirst, because you have not the thought how to make your own water. You see, Water - it was known in the past as a very mysterious substance, because it has the properties of being solvent for almost anything, given enough time. Water is the blood of your earth.
Yada: Yes. Water is the blood of your Earth, it is more than this - it is the vital fluid! Now, if the earth dissipates this vital fluid too rapidly, it does what is called brings on old age, not age by time, but by dehydration. This is what happened to Mars. If you ever go there and you want to occupy it (and it is a good climate still) you must find ways of bringing water to it.
Mr. R: Or, out of it.
Yada: Yes. Water is also the final fluid of the physical body. The blood contains a lot of water, lacking this water it would coagulate and kill one.
Mr. R: Yada, going back to what Mr. Tower says about these teachings, there is a mental law which says, that anything that you hold in mind will come to you, and to keep looking - - - they'll come to you.
Yada: That is right, that is right. You do not go to them, they will come to you. That is what many, many ... .... .. the majority of students of, should I say, metaphysics? No. Of life! These students fail to acquire the knowledge they are seeking. They think they have to go look for it.
Audience: A lot of men go around looking so many places, they don't stay still Iong enough to catch it if it hit them in the face.
Yada: That is right.
Audience: So many - they go out on psychic binges and they join all organizations and all forms of ramifications and thought, and by the time they hit the cemetery they have missed the boat, the water, the land and everything.
Yada: That is right.
Audience: Because they haven't stayed still long enough to have anything catch them.
Yada: That is right. Now this is perhaps amazing, but it is truth, many many peoples who go seeking from this group to that group in metaphysics are not seeking knowledge, what they are seeking is tribulation.
Mr. R: Tribulation.
Yada: Tribulation is right and you know what it is? Sex tribulation.
Mr. R: Right,
Yada: You'll find that if you are pursued en mass, or personally, metaphysical groups, and watch the people, both men and women, you'll begin to even feel that sexual drive, that sexual desire flowing among them.
Mr. R: The spiritualists.
Yada: Of course.
Mr. R: Yada, there is another point in this too, about finding teachings, most people, they may have a desire for these teachings and yet they tell themselves that, "I don't know where to look". They should never tell themselves that.
Yada: Of course not.
Mr. R: They say, "I can't find it", they put a block right in front of themselves. A block that says: "I don't know where to look". They should never tell themselves that.
Yada: Of course. In the first place these peoples do not know what they're looking for, that's why they say that. They do not know, they have no . . . . no . . . . picture, no comprehensive picture in their mind of what they are looking for and it ends up, as a rule, that what they are looking for is to satisfy a hunger, a feeling, but it's eating inside of them. They're looking for someone to scratch it for them, and who can scratch another person's itch?
Irene: Would you want to say something?
Harry: I observed in a lot of people that I've been around, that when they're looking for something they go and 'blab' everything, and then everybody gives them their wonderful advice. They give it to them because it's not worth a thing on the market. So they have that person so confused and he's so influenced by Aunt Martha, Mom, Dad and Grandma, who've set themselves up in this private life as being thoroughly good people, that know a great deal that they don't know. Why they're worse off after they open their mouth than they were before, because they haven't got a chance to think. It's always been done for them and they're pretty brainwashed.
Yada: Of course, because they're getting brainwashed by peoples who had their brains washed before them.
Mr. R: Of course.
Irene: But you know, Yada, the thing that you said a long time ago pertaining to when the student is ready, and when he is ready he doesn't go around asking all these people, but when he is ready the teacher will appear.
Yada: Yes and the teacher may be some writing, a book, or something.
Irene: A rock?
Yada: A rock. A sudden thought in meditation, or perhaps when he is not even thinking about wanting to know anything. Suddenly the teachers say, so, so and so, so. Oh . . . . isn't that strange .. .... I didn't think of that before .... .... but they're not ready to think about it, because their minds is not in a condition, to receive that kind of thought.
Mr. R: Well, the Christian Bible says to "Be Still" and they won't Be Still. Laughter.
Yada: No. No. It is known by many teachers of the Eastern World, that the Western World Mind is like a barrel of monkeys. No stopping, run, run, run; rush, rush, rush; well now, this is called "getting what you're asking for".
Harry: I used to have a cartoon showing a little boy running for all he was worth, then he got tired of running and he said to himself, "I bet if I'd been going somewhere, I'd be there already". Laughter.
Lady: May I ask a question, Yada?
Yada: Yes, please.
Lady: About the astrology chart. What would be the purpose? You say a child is born, he should have a chart made up once or twice a year, but why? What would be the purpose, the help in having a chart?
Yada: Well, many things in guiding that person into more intelligent thinking, showing him why he should think certain thoughts, these thoughts being beneficial to him and these thoughts, and these thoughts alone, will guide him more directly to the things that are good for his growth. It will help to keep his mind from thinking negatively, or what is called the "gutter".
Lady: Can adults make up charts, or has the passage of time changed the signs, or something? . . . . somehow?
Yada: Oh now not so much the passage of time that has changed the signs or directional pointers, but rather our feelings and the experiences we have had that brings about the change so that perhaps with changes of a nature that we may now have to go through, very trying times, or very painful experiences, which we could have avoided had we known earlier how to act, how to think, how to live. Oh, now there is no easy passage, so we must get this straight in our minds first - No easy passage in the physical world. You cannot avoid that which you have come to experience here. You may call that your destiny, but call it what you will, what you experience - is what you need.
Man: Oh, but it need not all be painful.
Yada: Oh by no means, by no means, perhaps most of your life may be one of pleasure and I mean healthful pleasure, not dissipation. I mean healthful pleasure and very little of it before you pass may have pain. It depends. Where is your mind? You see, who cultivates weeds? They do not need to be cultivated. They grow of their own accord, if you try cultivating them, they'll die. Weeds know how to grow. That's what makes it so difficult to get rid of them, but they are not useful, not in a healthy garden - they are not useful. They are useful where they are needed, out in the open, growing wild, they do their natural work. They help to keep water on the land, on the soil. They give food in their dying, they give food to other plants, trees and so forth. There is nothing useless! Nothing. Everything has its purpose. So, Man must find his. Each one of us must find our purpose. Now, you do not have to go looking for it, because your thoughts make your purpose. If this is true, then is it not necessary to ask yourself, "what are my thought?".
Doctor: And yet, Yada, it seems to me that when the student is impelled to seek, he enters the Jungle and in that Jungle the folly is ever present.
Yada: Oh of course, and you know something else? The moment one sets their foot upon this path called the "thinking path", and seeks to plot a better and more healthy way of living, all hell breaks loose.
Frances O: That's for sure.
Yada: It is as though all those things that he has been doing in the past, that were negative, that were destructive to him, they all rush at him now full speed ahead, even those he thought he had gotten rid of.
Man: That's very true.
Yada: Yes, but remember this, if the student remembers this, holds this in mind, that there is a possibility of this happening, much more likely than not, then he is prepared to parry with these, to hold them back. This holding them back gives him more strength, he knows now what they are, so they are not so likely to frighten him. They may overwhelm him and drive him down the path, but they will never drive him off the path.
Mr. R: Just tearing down the old structure in order to build a new one.
Yada: That is right, that is right.
Lady: You know, it's a shame, that when you become a parent that you don't have knowledge like this beforehand, so that you can teach your children property. When they are grown up and find out things, by then it is hard to picture what they want any more.
Yada: Good, all of you know this, and many, many peoples know this, but how many are making a move to band together and start a real school where people can come, young, children can come to be instructed after their schooling, academic education, these children should spend an hour or two learning the truth of life.
Francis O: Here again, as Mr. R. said, even a child is an individual personality and can reject.
Yada: That is right.
Francis O: Or maybe get such help.
Yada: That is right. You know, but I will say this, that even these children that reject will get something out of it.
Francis O: Yes, maybe.
Yada: Well, you see, if this is continued with them, to show them this way, they get something out of it, which perhaps wiII show itself when they become adults, because of certain experiences they will have.
Yada: Yes seed sowing. Yes, that is very good. So that their minds will hark back to these teachings and say, "Yes, now I understand, now I see the reason for such an education", they will turn back and try.
Francis O: Well, for example my children know about the Inner Circle here, and they don't disturb themselves to come down when they could, but I still think that the knowledge, that the seed, they can never forget.
Yada: That is right, that is right. You see when we are young, that sex force is driving us constantly. Oh it is like an electrical wire being applied to us.
Man: Ha, ha . . . . . .. hot foot.
Audience: On the backside.
Yada: On the bad side, yes. The hot foot yes. That is true and we cannot simply when we are young like this and the fire force is in us, we cannot simply say, "Oh, I will forget it." You see, part of the teaching that you should have, part of the reasons for the school, is to train the child how to intelligently use his creative forces, his sex energies. When he should use them through the sex centers and when not; with whom should he exchange these vital, cosmic energies, with whom. One who has already fallen into prostitution? Now prostitutes can be brought back from dissipating their forces for money, when they will learn to give themselves only in love.
Doctor: Well, a good example is in the New Testament, Mary Magdalene.
Mr. R: But where in the New Testament did it say she was a prostitute?
Doctor: Well, speaking officially now, I assume she was.
Mr. R: You mean she gave it free instead of for money?
Francis O: No.
Mr. R: It's a surprise anybody knows. Mary of Magdala was from the City of Magdala, on the North Coast of Africa, which was under Roman rule. She was of the Roman Nobility and was one of the rulers of that city. Because she oppressed the people, she was obsessed by these devils, which Christ cast out. But, no where in the Bible does it say that she was a prostitute.
Irene: I think a prostitute, I think one who commits the act of prostitution, is one who cohabits with another that they don't love. They are prostituting their energies. This can happen in so-called, a legal marriage as well - as out of it.
Yada: Of course. Prostitution, again that word covers much more than many people have been taught to believe. As you say, Irene, there are many legally (you like that?) legally married peoples who are carrying on prostitution.
Francis O: I was thinking about this news report from Long Island, New York City. About housewives who organized a large call girl ring, some of them are making as much as $30,000 a year. These are housewives, respectable housewives who sold their bodies for two or three hundred dollars an hour to wealthy businessmen; $30,000 bucks a year some of them made.
Irene: I'll tell you, I don think it's any worse than the wife who has been forced to cohabit with her husband when she doesn't want to.
Francis O: Well, I'm thinking about that, that .... ..... .... that's probably why they did that.
Yada: Oh, I was going to say, that is a lot more money than any husband ever paid his wife. Laughter. (Make joke, ha, ha)
Francis O: Oh, he is right, but just the same, this call ring, the husbands stayed home as baby sitters, they did not know what their wives we're doing.
Irene: Well, she's making the house payments.
Francis O: Right, that's exactly what she was doing, supplementing the family income.
Yada: Is this not a product, this kind of living, is it not a product of your times? This is a product of your times and what you Americans call the education for the Rat Race.
Francis O: Oh brother.
Yada: Yes. Now I often find, as you here are aware of, that the use of colloquial and slang expressions is very useful. So do you have any writings, a book called "slang-ology?"
Man: Yes, a slang dictionary.
Mr. R: We have over 4,000 slang terms.
Yada: Very good, because I have found much of them very, very useful. They are often so much more to the point than the proper expressions.
Yada: Oh yes, picturesque is the word.
Mr. R: The trouble Iies in the people making too much use of them, so that they become a rubber stamp.
Yada: That is right and often also they are used in the wrong places. You see, everything has its place, has its time, has its purpose. When things are used outside of purpose and time, they are become hybrids and non-productive.
Mr. R: This fits my definition of good and evil, doesn't it, Yada?
Yada: Yes, of course.
Mr. R: Its time and its place, its degree, its purpose.
Yada: Yes. Now, because this tape is eventually going to my most kind friend Anita G. and her husband, Alfred, to them, my deepest love and appreciation and gratitude for the work they have done for us and for Mark and Irene through the years. We are deeply indebted to them, deeply.
Irene: And I think, Yada, that Anita would appreciate us thanking the people who attend these study groups.
Yada: Oh, of course.
Irene: Some of them come from Rochester and many, many miles, and you know, there's a lot of snow there now and it's difficult to get around.
Irene: But they come to her place from many, many miles away.
Yada: Yes, so to them also. I extend my great appreciation, not so much for their interest in something called, "our work", but interest in the studies of life, their life as creators, finding themselves, going back home - reinheriting their rightful estate. Now, in the past you have heard me mention that some peoples go in and stay in a state of sleep when they pass from the physical world, you, of course, are aware of that, yes?
Yada: The same thing happens when an entity who is seeking to come into the physical world spends time in sleep. It is one, two, three years before that entity is aware that he is in another place called the physical world. Now, he is going through the process the moment he gets into the physical world, of waking up, becoming self-aware, or aware of himself as a physical being. Now I hope you folks will feel free to make any suggestions you feel desired to in our talks and it will, I am sure, help to stimulate thoughts and the conversation in general.
Mr. R: Now, Yada, when a baby is first born, it appears that it is a very painful thing. The pain goes all through the entire body and this is caused by the air in the lungs, the Iife force entering into the child's body and it is painful. It causes the child to cry and to gasp for more breath, which makes it all the more painful: and then it becomes so painful at times, that he withdraws from the physical body. And they say, "Oh, the poor little dear, he is just sleeping".
Yada: Um. Laughter. He's not sleeping, he is just getting in what is called the "withdrawal state" to escape the pain, the pressures.
Mr. R: Now the child does this very often, shall we say in the first month of his life.
Yada: Yes. This condition takes place with many people who pass from the physical world into the astral world, although the mechanics of it, is somewhat different, some people tend to sleep longer than other people when they come from the physical world. Again, there are others who have a very short sleep, if any. Sometimes the transition, the appearance of unconsciousness is merely surface appearances. That entity is withdrawing from the physical world and retaining his consciousness from the time he shut out the physical world until he becomes fully aware in the astral world. It is no real loss of consciousness at all, except regarding the physical self. You understand?
Audience: Uh huh.
Yada: But this is not often the case. Now we may think that we see a certain person pass from the physical world, who by our association with him, or with her, we have come to believe that they perhaps are not very smart people, by worldly standards they do not prove themselves to be very smart. Yet, they may have retained memory of their past experiences to a very sharp and clear degree and so their level of awareness is not to be measured by worldly standards of education. They, in short, they may be very far advanced in the inner wisdom, having gathered their knowledge from past lives in the physical world and retained them. Or, a considerable bank of memory regarding their past experiences and so these peoples may pass right on through from the physical world to the astral with very little loss of consciousness.
Then there are some here who seem to be very highly advanced in the Inner Teachings who are not, really. They have what is called "intellectual knowledge" and not practical and useful abilities, I mean knowing how to use that knowledge. These people may have a very advanced education in academic things, or they may be totally ignorant of academic things. If they do not have knowledge, so that they can and have been practicing this knowledge, then they may go to sleep in the physical world and not wake up, not become self-aware again for anything from days, weeks, months, or even years; years measured by earth standards.
Mr. R: The intellectual knowledge is just information.
Yada: That is right.
Mr. R: And they have to practice it until it becomes habituated.
Yada: That is right.
Mr. R: Then they begin to acquire real knowledge.
Yada: That is so. But this means then, when they have so used that knowledge, that they will continue to use it when they pass into the astral world.
Mr. R: Now, Yada, I'm going to ask you a question and this may seem to have no connection with this.
Yada: That is all right.
Mr. R: But is not the first step toward turning this information into knowledge, the first step, is to have good will toward all people?
Yada: That is so.
Mr. R: Now, maybe many people cannot see the connection between that.
Yada: Oh, that has a very definite and highly intelligent connection. It is of utmost importance, in fact without good will toward our fellowman and toward life in general you know, we cannot advance. We cannot make our intellectual knowledge or information into usable material.
Mr. R: Now the fact that people cannot see this is because they judge from outer appearance. The real working part of this is within the body of the individual himself.
Mr. R: Where his thought goes into the heart center and goes into the nerve force and the blood and it changes the entire structure of the body.
Yada: That is right.
Mr. R: And it makes the cells of the body smaller, so that they can respond to these higher rates of vibration.
Yada: Oh yes.
Mr. R: And this is the very first step in either yogi or alchemy
Yada: That is right and without having this, let us say feeling towards our environment and the universe in general, we fall very short of becoming actively engaged in the processes of living.
Mr. R: It is because our physical bodies cannot respond to the higher vibrations.
Yada: That is right, that is right, so we observe the fact that there are teachers, wonderful teachers whose abilities is in giving information and yet not be able to use this information themselves. They are still helpful to those who are ready and capable of taking that information and putting it to practical use. Now, it has been said that some healers, in fact the majority of healers, seem to have wonderful ability to heal others, but they cannot heal themselves. Now in your Christian Holy Book, there is a statement there made by the man you call Jesus, where a doctor man asked to be healed and the man, Jesus, said, "physician heal thyself". Yes?
Yada: But you see, he couldn't, because all he had was information, all he had was intellectual knowledge. Now, the only way he could respond to the command made by Jesus was to be able to put his understanding to practice. Many teachers and many healers know what is causing their sickness, but they do not know how to handle these forces that are causing their sicknesses; which are, basically, fears', anxieties, frustrations and things of that nature. Now, even many people think because one who acts as a healer, teacher, that if they are so acting, they should be able to do these things for themselves, and so these people are derided and mocked, often by those who know not, because they cannot heal themselves or teach themselves how to get well. But such teachers have a place, their place is to give information so that someone around them, who is ready to put such information into use, this makes them very valuable to those who want to learn, huh?
Mr. R: Yes it does.
Yada: Physician, heal thyself. Now to the so-called ordinary person, or person without understanding of such an expression, how is he going to be able to heal himself? How? We have to have this thing which you call "good will". This will help us, because it is
Mr. R: It means sympathetic understanding.
Yada: Yes. If by no other term of sympathetic understanding, I think that is wonderful, it's of the utmost importance to have. Sympathetic understanding. It is the ability to put yourself in the place of another who finds himself sick or mentally unhappy.
Mr. R: In this connection, Yada, there seems to be very few persons who are capable of this sympathetic understanding. For this reason, any personal question should be answered on three different levels; the objective or the physical world, the spiritual, and the conscience and ideals of the individual.
Yada: That is so.
Mr. R: Now they only answer it on the objective level. They do not know the spiritual level or conscience and the ideals of the individual. Therefore, most often, you go to a person for advice, they will tell you something, but you put them in a similar position, they will do anything except what they advised you to do. Laughter.
Yada: These people have no real understanding of the situation, they have no feeling for their fellowman, indeed they have no feeling for themselves. So how can they respond sympathetically to someone else's difficulties or suffering? Huh? They cannot do it.
Mr. R: No, they only operate on, the objective level, which is the herd mind.
Yada: Which is right.
Mr. R: Yada, going back to the baby again. The first few months of a child's life, it has two consciousnesses, it is both of the spirit world and the physical world. Now, it gradually loses this consciousness of the spiritual world as it goes over, but during the first few months it's one thing that many people do to that child, that simply frightens the child almost to death. They take this child and hold it up in front of a mirror. To the child, this is still a third state of consciousness and it is too much for him. Laughter.
Yada: Yes, but fortunately, an entity in the world at that small age finds it no great difficulty to almost immediately forget the experience. But there is one trouble which few people seem to recognize and that is, that such an experience though the baby may not show any signs of having suffered shock, it has made a mark in the unconscious self.
Mr. R: Yes, fear.
Yada: Yes. So that later in the child's life may come sicknesses from this shock, or loss of memory, many things of a negative nature. Now the birth trauma, struggling to be born, indelibly marks the human consciousness. The experience of being transferred as a seed from the father's body to the mother's body and the great struggle, the tremendous race of millions of these living entities, in physical seed, marks the unconscious of those that get to the egg in their mother's body.
Mr. R: Yada is it possible for a child to keep the consciousness of the spiritual world as well as the consciousness of the physical world throughout his life?
Yada: Oh yes.
Mr. R: But it is seemingly unlikely, I suppose.
Yada: Oh very much so, and something more, not something very good to have, because then you become, or are likely to become stranded mentally, as it were, between the two planes. Oh you get caught between the two levels of consciousness and can't ge out of the way completely and this causes a good deal of confusion and general unhappiness and sickness of body again.
Mr. R:Then do you think it is best that the child lose this consciousness of the spiritual plane and then go back to it later?
Yada: Yes, I surely do. I think it better that the incoming entity closes the door as tightly as he can upon the world from which he has come, when he comes into the physical world. Now this is not true when one leaves the physical world and goes into the astral world. Although it has its value, if one can close out the physical world upon entering the astral world. You see what I mean by this old saying, "We cannot serve two Gods", we cannot be of two consciousnesses.
Mr. R: One kind of consciousness must predominate.
Yada: That is right and now if it is of the physical and it is strong for the physical, that person is more likely to live longer in the physical world and more healthy in the physical world than when his consciousness is divided. When there is in the part of one's consciousness an awareness of the world from which he has come, he is never completely happy, never completely content to carry on his experiences as long as he possibly can in the physical world. He wants to get away, there is always that element of wanting to escape.
Mr. R: While he is there?
Yada: While he is there. To retain his consciousness, hold it, be self-aware upon the plane of consciousness you have entered.
Mr. R: Now in order to realize how difficult that is, all one has to do is to concentrate upon one subject and then immediately put it out of mind.
Yada: That is right.
Mr. R: You see, you can't do it.
Yada: Oh right, oh very, very difficult. This takes years of work, this is why I made mention of this thought in one of the tapes that was made a transcript - To Stay Self-Aware. It takes years of practice. So there are no young master yogi, that is why, it takes years of effort to master, to control your consciousness, so that you can take one thought and hold it and keep out all other thoughts, because this is what it takes to operate on any plane successfully. You see, the astral world is made up of peoples who have had no such training and so they are running back and forth between the planes. Because memory of the earth sticks to them, so that they cannot hold and keep themselves aware in the astral world. So they cannot go on to higher planes, so we cannot stand still, so then we must come back. If we cannot move forward, we must move backward. Because there is no standing still in Life anywhere. Progression or Regression.
Now many peoples saying, in speaking of regression, do not like to accept the thought, but if we have not learned what it takes to advance ourselves into higher consciousness, how are you going to go there? Regression is not something evil, it is simply a natural law, a law of going back instead of going forward. That is all. Why do we go back? There is a purpose, there is a reason, and that generally is we have not learned how to handle life on the earth plane. Every entity that enters the earth plane, there is his school, his beginning school of becoming self-aware.
Mr. R: I believe, Yada, that the mystic, no matter how high a state of consciousness he may attain, he has at some time to come back and follow the occult or the Yogi path.
Yada: Oh yes, of course.
Mr. R: Because he has to handle both consciousness force and form in order to be a complete master.
Yada: That is right.
Mr. R: And you cannot do this by following consciousness alone.
Yada: No, no, indeed you get hung up in a vacuum if you follow consciousness alone. Cannot do it. After certain practices you will find that there is not such condition as consciousness alone. Consciousness is made up of dreams, a series of experiences that I call dreams. It is the Creative Mind having these experiences on each one of these planes. And if we fail to stay awake while we are learning, we simply don't learn. Stay Aware! AWARE!
When the human consciousness, however it is more than that, but I will call it that for convenience sake, when the human consciousness created the matter world and came to live in it, it was, before it became what is called human, it was a consciousness that could not even remotely be called self-aware.
Irene: Yada has informed me that he will finish this subject at a later date, he wishes to withdraw and asks me to tell all of you, "Good night".